I would just like to ask or hear back from some other people on a handeling characteristic that I have observed:

I seem to feel like the S is power on understeer, however, getting off power it seems to snap a little toward balance or slight oversteer.

Is this something that others have seen or did I get the demon car?

Thank you,

Walz

 

Check these things...it doesn't sound right to me.

Make sure the spring spacers are removed.

Check your tire pressure.

The car, in my experience, rarely understeers and is given to oversteer.

Let us know what you find!

And welcome to the forum...I hope you don't have the demon car...

 

yup. tire pressures drastically affect this car's handling, as i learned (the hard way) at last weekend's autox.

p.s. the s2k will understeer under the right conditions.

 

I've found that the S2K will understeer quite nicely if you apply the gas below ~5500 rpm. Above that and there's enough power to cause power-on oversteer. The stasis/slight oversteer that you experience when letting off the throttle is due to the transfer of weight to the front wheels, allowing them to grip better.

 

You can also induce understeer by over cooking a corner and over-powering the front tires.

Before the Mugen bar, I found the car would understeer slightly and then rotate to slight oversteer as speed was scrubbed off by the front tires and the car began to turn-in.

The Mugen bar has, IMHO, made the car much more neutral under most circumstances on the track. I find the car much more "point and shoot" now. It is much harder to get the rear to come around unless you are doing it intentionally.

As others have said, tire pressure makes a world of difference with the car. Let out some air and you understeer could dissappear as well.

 

Maybe it's my tire pressure (34psi R, 33psi F), but I get more understeer than oversteer. Probably a combination of that and the fact that I almost always enter the corner too fast (unless I'm playing GT3...which makes no sense). I don't mind the oversteer in this car, but in order to get it I have to be going very fast, and it's hard to save.

Andrew

 

It is very easy to see understeer during deceleration and oversteer when accelerating. I find the car pretty neutral overall but can prompt either behavior with my driving.

So I am tempted to believe people are categorizing their experiences rather than the characteristics of the car. Forget this turn or that and try a steady state skid pad experience to judge the balance of your setup.

When I do turns correctly I find that I go in with a neutral balance and exit under power to a controlled slight oversteer. When I do them wrong is when I see understeer or gross oversteer. Lift throttle behavior can be scary in many cars but is pretty violent with this one so it is to be avoided.

This easy to tip balance is the characteristic of the car that makes it a challenge to drive and very different around the track from one driver to the next.

 

With stock wheels, tires, and suspension, plus the Spoon X-Brace, I've settled on 36psi front, 34psi rear cold pressures. I rarely see understeer, and oversteer is very controllable unless I do something stupid like lift in a turn.

Ted

 

BINGO!! Well said...