For people with Eibach Prokit/stock shocks
Right now, I'm right around 92k miles with all original stock parts that came with the car, except Rick's X-brace. I'm probably going to be replacing the stock springs with Eibach Prokits and with brand new stock shocks. The reasons I'm leaning toward the Eibach Prokit/stock shocks are that it seems to be a tried and true method here. Also, I'm not a hardcore tracker, so having settings would only confuse me and may put me in a dangerous position if I don't know what I'm doing. Here are some of my questions/comments, please provide feedback.....
1. Would like around a 1 inch drop on all corners. This setup may fit the bill.
2. Even though I don't track the car currently, I may do so in the future and don't want this new setup to perform any worse than when totally stock so not to limit myself. Equal to or better than totally stock is acceptable.
3. This is my daily driver and I like to drive in a spirited manner and love the endearing tossability and go-kart reflexes whether I drive it at 2/10 or 7/10 on the street. Will the Eibachs take away any of this?
4. Will the car dip less in bumps due to the stiffer spring rates? Will the car recover from the dips quicker (or this solely a shock function?)? Will the suspension movements be quicker (again, is this a shock thing?)? Yea yea I guess it's borderline bling lol, but I like the "look" of a stiff suspension hehe.
5. Although the overall rates are stiffer for the Eibach over OEM, since Eibachs are progressive, will they feel softer or the same under "normal" driving? I like the stiffness of stock (stiffer would be better since it makes driving more engaging) and softer would suck.
6. When Eibach tested these Prokits, did they do so with Honda OEM shocks? What shocks did they base their engineering and research on?
7. The totally stock setup is a bit bumpy, especially as evidenced by the HID beam action at night. Since the stiffer rates will be placing more work on the stock shocks, I'm assuming it will be a bit bumpier since the shock will have to work more to absorb the stiffer spring rate. More oscillations but the range of oscillation will be smaller due to less travel.
8. After having read all this, do you think the Eibach Prokit/stock shock combo is suitable for what I'm looking for?
Please provide feedback - TIA.
1. Would like around a 1 inch drop on all corners. This setup may fit the bill.
2. Even though I don't track the car currently, I may do so in the future and don't want this new setup to perform any worse than when totally stock so not to limit myself. Equal to or better than totally stock is acceptable.
3. This is my daily driver and I like to drive in a spirited manner and love the endearing tossability and go-kart reflexes whether I drive it at 2/10 or 7/10 on the street. Will the Eibachs take away any of this?
4. Will the car dip less in bumps due to the stiffer spring rates? Will the car recover from the dips quicker (or this solely a shock function?)? Will the suspension movements be quicker (again, is this a shock thing?)? Yea yea I guess it's borderline bling lol, but I like the "look" of a stiff suspension hehe.
5. Although the overall rates are stiffer for the Eibach over OEM, since Eibachs are progressive, will they feel softer or the same under "normal" driving? I like the stiffness of stock (stiffer would be better since it makes driving more engaging) and softer would suck.
6. When Eibach tested these Prokits, did they do so with Honda OEM shocks? What shocks did they base their engineering and research on?
7. The totally stock setup is a bit bumpy, especially as evidenced by the HID beam action at night. Since the stiffer rates will be placing more work on the stock shocks, I'm assuming it will be a bit bumpier since the shock will have to work more to absorb the stiffer spring rate. More oscillations but the range of oscillation will be smaller due to less travel.
8. After having read all this, do you think the Eibach Prokit/stock shock combo is suitable for what I'm looking for?
Please provide feedback - TIA.
Originally Posted by REVS 9K,Aug 23 2007, 01:02 PM
I am installing the Pro-kit tomorrow, will let you know.
Anyone wanna chime in to comment/reply my questions?
This is a video clip of the NSX Type R..... look how stiff the suspension movements are when the car hits dips and bumps. Does the NSX-R have the stiffest suspension for a stock car? The travel is short and the movement is clean, rapid, and efficient. Check out the clip and take note at the listed times. I'm guessing the Eibach/stock shocks on the S2000 won't make the car look that tight on bumps, correct?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o1sLVbbylN0
0:06 note the tight bounces on that tight turn instead of just leaning
0:31 clean movement over bumps
0:40
1:10 clean and short hops after being airborne
1:16
1:21
1:41 body looks very firm here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o1sLVbbylN0
0:06 note the tight bounces on that tight turn instead of just leaning
0:31 clean movement over bumps
0:40
1:10 clean and short hops after being airborne
1:16
1:21
1:41 body looks very firm here
1. Yes.
2. It will not be equal, that's for sure. IMO, it will be better.
3. They should enhance the car's responces and overall dynamics.
4. Spring are both shorter and stronger. So, there will be less travel and faster recovery. Shocks (which according to your post will remain stock) are there to "control" the spring action and since they will start working at a slightly more compressed point, they will move less and feel stiffer.
5. See 4.
6. Does it matter? They fit the car and enhance it's stability. They have been thorugly tested.
7. Again, see 4. There should be less oscillation.
8. Sounds like it. Only you can really tell.
2. It will not be equal, that's for sure. IMO, it will be better.
3. They should enhance the car's responces and overall dynamics.
4. Spring are both shorter and stronger. So, there will be less travel and faster recovery. Shocks (which according to your post will remain stock) are there to "control" the spring action and since they will start working at a slightly more compressed point, they will move less and feel stiffer.
5. See 4.
6. Does it matter? They fit the car and enhance it's stability. They have been thorugly tested.
7. Again, see 4. There should be less oscillation.
8. Sounds like it. Only you can really tell.
Originally Posted by SiDriver,Aug 23 2007, 02:36 PM
This is a video clip of the NSX Type R..... look how stiff the suspension movements are when the car hits dips and bumps. Does the NSX-R have the stiffest suspension for a stock car? The travel is short and the movement is clean, rapid, and efficient. Check out the clip and take note at the listed times. I'm guessing the Eibach/stock shocks won't make the car look that tight on bumps, correct?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o1sLVbbylN0
0:06 note the tight bounces on that tight turn instead of just leaning
0:31 clean movement over bumps
0:40
1:10 clean and short hops after being airborne
1:16
1:21
1:41 body looks very firm here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o1sLVbbylN0
0:06 note the tight bounces on that tight turn instead of just leaning
0:31 clean movement over bumps
0:40
1:10 clean and short hops after being airborne
1:16
1:21
1:41 body looks very firm here
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Originally Posted by PJCC,Aug 23 2007, 02:00 PM
You are comparing oranges and apples.
The question was will the Eibach/stock shock on the S2000 make the car appear to be that stiff (or close to it) on bumps. I'm guessing no. We would probably need major heavy duty expensive coilover kits to get the car to handle that tightly, I'm thinking. Like Ohlins, Penske, Moton, etc.
Originally Posted by Dr. WOT,Aug 24 2007, 07:32 AM
Those are way overkill and I suspect a major waste of money unless you know how to tune them properly. The more adjustable it is, the more important it is to adjust properly.






