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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 8kGoodENuff,Oct 30 2006, 10:20 AM
Why does it seem like everyone that has the basic bolt-ons are losing power or making only the power the car is rated at stock? Most people with bolt-ons usually make in the 220 whp range and most here are making in the 200 whp range.

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because guys dont do research to see what makes power, they just blindly buy what everyone else does. intakes DONT make power, dont waste the money. 60mm+ single exhaust make power, 97% of duals DONT make any power. tuning is also a big reason, a good tune can unlock alot of power.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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From what I've found, most AP1's make 190ish whp on a dynojet and AP2's make ~197ish whp on a dynojet (stock).

No way a stock S2000 puts down 220whp unless you're on a dynapack dyno or something.

Also, there are many "correction" methods. My car dyno'd 205+whp uncorrected, but SAE corrected comes to 197.x whp (stock AP2).

Power isn't the only thing that makes you faster. My single exhaust (BC Spec III) saves me 40+ lbs of weight. I haven't dyno'd it yet, but so long as it doesn't lose power, it's still helping (to make me deaf... oh, and save weight).

Tuning can unlock power, but that's a pretty hefty investment for an AEM EMS + dyno tuning time ($2000+) for like 15whp.

I think the people who spend $1200+ for an exhaust or $800+ for an intake are doing it more for the bling.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by minboost2,Oct 30 2006, 11:16 AM
From what I've found, most AP1's make 190ish whp on a dynojet and AP2's make ~197ish whp on a dynojet (stock).

No way a stock S2000 puts down 220whp unless you're on a dynapack dyno or something.

Also, there are many "correction" methods. My car dyno'd 205+whp uncorrected, but SAE corrected comes to 197.x whp (stock AP2).

Power isn't the only thing that makes you faster. My single exhaust (BC Spec III) saves me 40+ lbs of weight. I haven't dyno'd it yet, but so long as it doesn't lose power, it's still helping (to make me deaf... oh, and save weight).

Tuning can unlock power, but that's a pretty hefty investment for an AEM EMS + dyno tuning time ($2000+) for like 15whp.

I think the people who spend $1200+ for an exhaust or $800+ for an intake are doing it more for the bling.
you can make 15whp out of a $250 vafc for alot cheaper.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by minboost2,Oct 30 2006, 02:16 PM
From what I've found, most AP1's make 190ish whp on a dynojet and AP2's make ~197ish whp on a dynojet (stock).

No way a stock S2000 puts down 220whp unless you're on a dynapack dyno or something.
My dyno was on a dynojet. If I had some kind of tuning unit (VAFC, emanage, ems) I could have easily hit 220+rwhp
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Oct 30 2006, 11:38 AM
My dyno was on a dynojet. If I had some kind of tuning unit (VAFC, emanage, ems) I could have easily hit 220+rwhp
invidia is just about the best hp producing dual made.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by versionJDM,Oct 30 2006, 11:17 AM
you can make 15whp out of a $250 vafc for alot cheaper.
Too bad there's nothing for the 06 yet as far as the VAFC...

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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 8kGoodENuff,Oct 30 2006, 12:07 PM
Too bad there's nothing for the 06 yet as far as the VAFC...

Andre
there will never be one, vafc cant do DBW, since it uses the TPS to tune. you have to hondata it, or you might be able to get emange to work on a 06+.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by versionJDM,Oct 30 2006, 12:26 PM
there will never be one, vafc cant do DBW, since it uses the TPS to tune. you have to hondata it, or you might be able to get emange to work on a 06+.
These aftermarket companies have to come up with something. 2 year models (06 and 07) worth of market just opened up and I don't think these companies will let us slide by. Aftermarket companies for say BMW and Nissan have some sort of ECU tuning and they have DBW as well... don't see how they can get it to work bu they can't on us S2K guys... I know Hondata and AEM came out with stuff... but traction control is lost with them... there has to be a way to retain them while having tuning capabilities.

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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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No one has posted a stock dyno sheet so i figured i will. I've got a gutted airbox which i doubt gave me any gains. It was 80 degrees out and humid. Best was 209, 206 was with the ac on, and 208 with the airbox lid off.

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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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I was wondering if we could have a sticky at the top of out FI dyno results?

If so, I will start with mine from today. Altitude= 2600 ft., Dynojet, 75 degrees, 32% humidity Three pulls, one in 3rd, one in 4th , and one in 5th.

2002 S2000
CT SC w/AC
Ricks header
Invidia test pipe
CT exhaust
4.77 gears

3rd gear: 291 HP
4th gear: 300.5 HP 181.5 lbs tq
5th gear: 295 HP

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