i heard a lot of people advising against lowering the car with just lowering spring with OEM shock.

since the spring rate of lowering spring is much higher (almost double) that of the OEM ones, the OEM shock damping won't work well with the increased spring rate and the OEM shock will eventually give out.

anybody has problem with lowering springs and OEM shocks?

and i expect the handling with lowering spring won't be as good as the OEM set up since the shock damping is not adjusted according to the spring.

even with aftermarket coilover shocks, it will takes a lot of adjustment to make it work well?

 

well, I'm no professional on the matter, but I've heard that the stock shocks on the s2000 are "pretty damn good." In contrast to lowering say a civic or something where you can pretty much say bye bye to your shocks if you lower using just springs.

And it seems that many members of this board have used aftermarket springs and the stock shocks without problems. I am also considering the springs only drop.

Have you tried doing a search? I found a little bit of info regarding this subject...give it a try if you haven't...lates

 

I was EXTREMELY skeptical about mating KG/MM DR21 Race springs with my stock '02 shocks, but after perusing a lot of posts here I decided to do it based on multiple recommendations.

I though there was going to be at least a little pogo-ing and I was sure that there wouldn't be enough dampening in the stock shocks but I was wrong. I installed DR21s with a buddy last night (3.5 hr install in the dark) and after a few 'spirited' drives my impression was "HOLY SHTT". The KG/MMs should be what Honda puts on at the factory--a small loss in compliance for a big gain in handling and grip.

I can take off ramps/on ramps about 1-2 mph faster and in transitions from L to R the car felt more controllable and less shifty--and I haven't even had my car aligned properly yet! All those scary things about the back end getting even sketchier were false....it's still tail happy, but no more no less.

I'll know more after Thunderhill this weekend, but I'm telling you this is probably my best mod yet. A lot more noticeable than an X Brace and even with 17x8 and 17x9" rims there's no rubbing.

I avoided the coilovers because there's 9 screwed up settings (or more) for every 1 right one.

If you're going to decide, decide quickly--it took two months for me to get mine in from Japan.

 

I don't believe in all this "dude, I can take this turn XXmph faster because of xxxx" stuff. I don't know about the rest of you, but I neither have the time nor the desire to do any scientific measurements.

For me, lowering was 90 percent cosmetic and 10 percent for the handling "feel" improvement. To this day, I do not understand people who fork over huge $$ for bling rims and leave that huge gaping gap. shedding tears.

I lowered with the adjustable Ground Control springs, cornerweighted, the whole shebang on stock shocks. I experience no pogoing and the car definitely feels less "cushy." once the stock ones blow, i'll get the GC mated shocks (KONIS) or something that's been looked over as a matching set to the springs rates I've selected. The eibachs are 340/380 Front to rear or something,b ut i believe the KG/MMS are much higher. what really sucks is that no one knows what the 2002 spring rates are.

stock to lowered, same ol' go-kart feel that we all love. i definitely recommend the extra benjamins and go with Ground Controls.

you'll love the look and won't get that ghetto bounce.

keep it simple, fellas. good luck.

 

My original setup was Neuspeed springs over stock shocks. The rebound on the stock shocks was not sufficient to keep the car from bouncing a lot when going through dips. I would suspect that running an adjustable, high performance shock like the Konis would help significantly.

I just updated my car with KG/MM sports springs and Koni shocks. Once I get the 4-wheel alignment done, I will put it through the paces and see how it handles.

-YS

 

my thought is if we lower the car without doing alignment, the rear will be at a greater camber and the car will push(understeer) more (since the car is setup to have a tendence to understeer at the factory, as the suspension compress, i would think the rear should have a greater camber than the front to produce understeer).

i am still debating whether i should doing lowering spring just for the looks (but i don't want to mess up my OEM shocks and the handling), or save up for a full set of coil over.

 

Even if you do an alignment, there is only so much correction that they will be able to do. If you lower the car too much, you are going to have negative camber no matter what.

I have been through the ringer with my suspension (long story) and here is what I will offer:

1. Get coilovers or something adjustable (Comptech, etc.)
2. If you go with new springs, get Konis - they make the ride a whole lot better.
3. If you want my story on spring nightmares, PM me.

-YS

 

YS, you have to stop me from doing lowering spring then ..

pm sent

 

Talk to me too before you decide against springs. Do a search on KG/MM springs and you'll see my impressions.

 

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Talk to me too before you decide against springs.