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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Moton, Sachs, JRZ, etc. $4500-11000 Take your pick. Said it before, will say it again, you should buy suspension based off your usage of the car and the tires you run.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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Actually, I say you just build the car to match what JanNov does as his car is the sex. Gold RE30's on GPW with HT is the benchmark for S2000's in todays market.

In reality, the S2000 has always suffered from what magazine editors call snap oversteer. That's when he rear shock bottoms out causing the geometry of the suspension to change, causing toe out. Honda/Showa engineered the rear shock with a remote resevoir to minimize this effect with stock street tires (S02's) IMO it worked. Problem is, people were upgrading their tires from S02's, giving the car more grip, causing he shocks to compress more, and in turn bottoming out. Sooo.... the remedy, a slightly stiffer spring/shock combo still with the added shock travel of a remote resv. for aggresive street tires that most DD and weekend track S2000's are subject to. What coilover system offers that, the Bilstein PSS9's. OEM like ride quaility, and performance of a DD S2000 with more grip than OEM.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Highrpmek,Jul 9 2007, 07:39 PM
In reality, the S2000 has always suffered from what magazine editors call snap oversteer. That's when he rear shock bottoms out causing the geometry of the suspension to change, causing toe out. Honda/Showa engineered the rear shock with a remote resevoir to minimize this effect with stock street tires (S02's) IMO it worked. Problem is, people were upgrading their tires from S02's, giving the car more grip, causing he shocks to compress more, and in turn bottoming out. Sooo.... the remedy, a slightly stiffer spring/shock combo still with the added shock travel of a remote resv. for aggresive street tires that most DD and weekend track S2000's are subject to. What coilover system offers that, the Bilstein PSS9's. OEM like ride quaility, and performance of a DD S2000 with more grip than OEM.
does this apply to the ap2 as well? or did the suspension upgrades overcome this shortfall?
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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As far as the AP2 goes, everyone said the AP2 was softer, less performance oriented. Know what, it's faster, easier to drive at the limit, and more predictable. At least from my experience of owning both. The revised geometry of the AP2 rear supension along with the softer rear spring and the stiffer front spring alleviate most if not all of the "snap oversteer".
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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so if get a volk rays or a mugen wheels for my ap2 pss9 is still d better suspension to match those wheels? or it depends on the tires too? because i want to build an s2k that is a daily driver and also a trck ready anytime i feel lyk going to the track... i nid a lot of help on this one...
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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The stock suspension is great on the track. Lighter wheels and better tires are just an added bonus to track driving. There is no direct correlation with coilovers "matching" wheels.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by krypts2k,Jul 10 2007, 10:15 PM
so if get a volk rays or a mugen wheels for my ap2 pss9 is still d better suspension to match those wheels? or it depends on the tires too? because i want to build an s2k that is a daily driver and also a trck ready anytime i feel lyk going to the track... i nid a lot of help on this one...
Just to warn you. You know if you get a car that is a "daily driver" it mostly likely won't be "track ready" anytime. Its very hard to have both a comfortable daily driver and track ready car in one. The PSS9 is an overall better coilover for the street and not really designed for the heavy track use. I bought my PSS9 from this guy who wanted to have a track car and not a street suspension. The PSS9 was a good set-up at the track but this dude wanted to really set it up for full track use. So he sold his PSS9 like after a month of use and I bought it.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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how are the t1r's compared to these two
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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[QUOTE=Highrpmek,Jul 9 2007, 06:39 PM] Actually, I say you just build the car to match what JanNov does as his car is the sex.
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