Rating Blizzaks in the snow/ice
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DWynne
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The Blizzaak tires are supposed to be good, but the "multicell" tread is only in the first 50% or so of the tire and is said to wear away quickly. At the time I got mine, the Guardex used a similar technology but for the full tread depth.
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The Blizzaak tires are supposed to be good, but the "multicell" tread is only in the first 50% or so of the tire and is said to wear away quickly. At the time I got mine, the Guardex used a similar technology but for the full tread depth.
Originally posted by GChambers
That's another problem here in Indy, it seems that the snow does not stay on the roads for more than a few days. Winter tires would take a beating around here since the roads are clear more than they are slippery. I don't think a good pair of snow tires would last very long around here with any kind of spirited driving.
That's another problem here in Indy, it seems that the snow does not stay on the roads for more than a few days. Winter tires would take a beating around here since the roads are clear more than they are slippery. I don't think a good pair of snow tires would last very long around here with any kind of spirited driving.
I drive my BMW like I stole it
and the Guardex snow tires have held up just fine. I put them on as late in the season as I can (December usually, this year I made it to mid-January) and take them off as soon as I can.
Trust me, if I can't wear out snow tires in TN you should not be able to do it "up north". I had the same little wear on the Graspics and I had them on 2 different cars over a 4-5 year period. It pays to have spare rims (or a buddy in the tire biz) since the change-over and re-balance really starts to cost money after a while. On lesser cars I could get cheap steel wheels from TireRack, but I had to get "alloys" to fit over the huge rotors on the BMW.
People think I am nuts to buy snows in TN, we don't get a lot of snow down here - but I go in the rain, slush, ice, and snow. I change the tires in the driveway using a jack and an electric impact. Does not take too long and I just store the other wheels and tires in the garage.
I also get to use high performance "summer" rubber the other 9-10 months of the year I don't have the snows on. That to me is a REAL ADVANTAGE over "all season" tires - they do nothing well. My summer tires and snow tires out perform them all year long.
Dennis
and the Guardex snow tires have held up just fine. I put them on as late in the season as I can (December usually, this year I made it to mid-January) and take them off as soon as I can.Trust me, if I can't wear out snow tires in TN you should not be able to do it "up north". I had the same little wear on the Graspics and I had them on 2 different cars over a 4-5 year period. It pays to have spare rims (or a buddy in the tire biz) since the change-over and re-balance really starts to cost money after a while. On lesser cars I could get cheap steel wheels from TireRack, but I had to get "alloys" to fit over the huge rotors on the BMW.
People think I am nuts to buy snows in TN, we don't get a lot of snow down here - but I go in the rain, slush, ice, and snow. I change the tires in the driveway using a jack and an electric impact. Does not take too long and I just store the other wheels and tires in the garage.
I also get to use high performance "summer" rubber the other 9-10 months of the year I don't have the snows on. That to me is a REAL ADVANTAGE over "all season" tires - they do nothing well. My summer tires and snow tires out perform them all year long.
Dennis
Originally posted by DWynne
I change the tires in the driveway using a jack and an electric impact. Does not take too long and I just store the other wheels and tires in the garage.
I change the tires in the driveway using a jack and an electric impact. Does not take too long and I just store the other wheels and tires in the garage.
I do four cars x 2 sets of wheels per car: son's Accord, wife's Accord, my Prelude, my S2000. It really only takes about 30 minutes a car. Haul all the stuff back and forth to a tire store and waiting for it to be done wrong wouldn't be as easy.
The 2 1/4 ton floor jack I bought from Sears last year is a big improvement over the emergency jack found in the boot.
I use the electric impact to take them off and to spin them back on (not very tight), then use a hand torque wrench to finish the job.
The BMW has a neat little jack that is very easy to use and fits into "special slots" under the car. I have a floor jack (used it on the other cars) but I just stick with the BMW jack for this one. A little more work, but it makes me feel better
My only complaint is as I get older, I don't bend and flex as well, and I have pains for several days after changing the tires.
Dennis
The BMW has a neat little jack that is very easy to use and fits into "special slots" under the car. I have a floor jack (used it on the other cars) but I just stick with the BMW jack for this one. A little more work, but it makes me feel better

My only complaint is as I get older, I don't bend and flex as well, and I have pains for several days after changing the tires.
Dennis
Being at the bottom you probably won't read this S2KRAY, but it finally started snowing here in Utah and I finally caved in after doing a 360 on the road. Thank God no one was around. I bought 4 Yoko 721's (2- 205/55/16 & 2-225/50/16)and 4 Konig Divas (16x7) for less than $800 brand new at Discount Tire. Just thought I'd share the info.
Originally posted by DWynne
I have always heard good things about Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires, but I have never owned any or know anyone around here that has.
I have always heard good things about Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires, but I have never owned any or know anyone around here that has.
however, i find the tire geared more for high speed stability (it's speed rated) and "decent" traction, not for "in the trenches" type of winter driving.
obviously i have to "roll out" from a stop in the benz b/c of the power and therefore the initial traction
qualities can't be spoken for. i honestly don't know how they would do on an S2000.......
the blizzaks, on the other hand, i can hammer from a light...get a bit of spin....and then nothin' but TRACTION!
Well, guess what. It's snowing like a banshee in Delaware, we're supposed to get around 8". I'm at work, S2K is tucked away safely in garage. Wife 's bus is closed and I drove her front wheel drive Lexus to work. I'm leaving soon, might be shopping for Blizzaks now that I have all this great info. Thanks again.








