Regrets about modding the car to the point of no return?
What's up all! need some advice/opinion,
I'm at the point in my life where I'm about to get married next year, S2000 is my only car and so the S2000 may or may not be sticking around for much longer (read: maybe try to have a kid in the next 3-4 years).
Anywho, I want to do rear over fenders, but of course that is irreversible (unless big $$ spent to reshape a stock rear quarter panel back). I’m wondering if I will regret putting the over fenders on come time to sell my car?
We all know it’s better to part out a modded car before selling to get the most return. I have pretty much modded my car so far with that in mind—kept most of my stock parts and haven’t done anything that can’t be reversed (besides pulled front fenders, but that isn’t a biggie IMO).
In your opinions, do rear over fenders devalue S2000 sales much? What if the car is entirely stock besides rear over fenders? I obviously want the most return I can get from selling my car, but also want to enjoy my car as much as I can in the limited time that I still have it, so I have to weigh these two against each other.
Sometimes I think over fenders might not be a big deal when selling a car because the cost of entry into the car WAS getting lower each year and younger people were getting into the car. NOW, it seems the value of our cars has gone up recently, so not sure how much impact that will have, if any.
Let me know what you think!
-Chris
I'm at the point in my life where I'm about to get married next year, S2000 is my only car and so the S2000 may or may not be sticking around for much longer (read: maybe try to have a kid in the next 3-4 years).
Anywho, I want to do rear over fenders, but of course that is irreversible (unless big $$ spent to reshape a stock rear quarter panel back). I’m wondering if I will regret putting the over fenders on come time to sell my car?
We all know it’s better to part out a modded car before selling to get the most return. I have pretty much modded my car so far with that in mind—kept most of my stock parts and haven’t done anything that can’t be reversed (besides pulled front fenders, but that isn’t a biggie IMO).
In your opinions, do rear over fenders devalue S2000 sales much? What if the car is entirely stock besides rear over fenders? I obviously want the most return I can get from selling my car, but also want to enjoy my car as much as I can in the limited time that I still have it, so I have to weigh these two against each other.
Sometimes I think over fenders might not be a big deal when selling a car because the cost of entry into the car WAS getting lower each year and younger people were getting into the car. NOW, it seems the value of our cars has gone up recently, so not sure how much impact that will have, if any.
Let me know what you think!
-Chris
If I see mine I plan on selling it to another enthusiast. You can get more money by going back to stock and parting out, but the way I think about it, is are you building the car to enjoy or are you building it thinking about selling it. I say if you really like the over fender, do it and just leave it that way if you sell it.
I've sold a couple of modded cars in the past. Both were infinitely more difficult to sell than they would have been stock. I sat on a midly modded RSX for almost 4 months before the thing finally moved, and I still have parts sitting in my basement a year later.
Keep it stock, or at least easily reversible if you feel like you'll need to unload it in the near future.
Keep it stock, or at least easily reversible if you feel like you'll need to unload it in the near future.
At the end of the day, you're going to have this for another couple of years ... at most you're losing the money you spent on the fender work and it may take a little more time to sell but like one of the previous responses the car is for your pleasure today and your mods shouldn't be decided by resale value unless you're in a money crunch and can't afford to lose money on a car
Chris, I've debated this several if not 100 times already about the over fenders... I had a 350z and went with the veilside widebody and have regretted it very much ever since doing that. I think of it as a learning tool. Do you ever plan on letting go of this car in the future? I know for myself I am never happy with a cars current state and I will always be modding the car to the newest latest and greatest so to speak... IMO I would never by a car that has had modded fenders except for the usual fender roll. My general opinion is that trying to find a buyer with the exact tastes that you have has made your buyer options (should you ever want to let go of that car)decrease a dramatic amount. My suggestion is that you leave the rear fenders OEM and keep all of the OEM reversable parts on hand should you need to sell the car later down the road.
Remember as the S2000 gets older the price will inflate for low mileage good example clean OEM models, but for the average Joe who drives this car as you can see in the market most 18-25 year olds are crashing these cars like nobody's business really like it's a game... So I would think in the next 5 years were gonna start to see that the S2000 is becoming a very rare car and more so "garage-kept" so that these can re-sale at a higher value just like the supra's.
How many were brought to the U.S? 65k? Don't quote that number but being a 10+ year old car now (ap1's) how many have crashed and been totaled out or are now parts doners. That's the real question.
Your car is very clean and subtle, if you don't want to sell it down the road or go in the mind set of knowing that you will decrease the re-sale value then I say go for it...
I like your car the way it is! No... I love your car the way it sits right now, less is more Chris and you sir have obtained THE most IMO.
Ryan, congrats on the marriage!
P.S my experience includes a JDM 99 integra type-r, rb26 S13, Twin turbo 350z, 500+ WHP 300zx, 500+ WHP r32 GTR, and a 380 WHP FD3S With a wide body. Yes I am a nissan fan
No body will know the abuse the car has been through or if the mods have been done correctly and professionally half of these cars have been re-built the first day the new owner has taken possession of them. Just for good measures and I do the exact same thing.
Remember as the S2000 gets older the price will inflate for low mileage good example clean OEM models, but for the average Joe who drives this car as you can see in the market most 18-25 year olds are crashing these cars like nobody's business really like it's a game... So I would think in the next 5 years were gonna start to see that the S2000 is becoming a very rare car and more so "garage-kept" so that these can re-sale at a higher value just like the supra's.
How many were brought to the U.S? 65k? Don't quote that number but being a 10+ year old car now (ap1's) how many have crashed and been totaled out or are now parts doners. That's the real question.
Your car is very clean and subtle, if you don't want to sell it down the road or go in the mind set of knowing that you will decrease the re-sale value then I say go for it...
I like your car the way it is! No... I love your car the way it sits right now, less is more Chris and you sir have obtained THE most IMO.
Ryan, congrats on the marriage!P.S my experience includes a JDM 99 integra type-r, rb26 S13, Twin turbo 350z, 500+ WHP 300zx, 500+ WHP r32 GTR, and a 380 WHP FD3S With a wide body. Yes I am a nissan fan
No body will know the abuse the car has been through or if the mods have been done correctly and professionally half of these cars have been re-built the first day the new owner has taken possession of them. Just for good measures and I do the exact same thing.
I really like your car, it's one of my favorites on the forum! Definitely an inspiration.
Are you wanting to sell or do you just feel obliged to? It doesn't make sense to throw more money into the car when you know you're going to sell in the near-ish future.
I personally wouldn't consider buying an s2k with over fenders, but then I wouldn't buy one with rolled quarters either. It's not that I don't like those things, it's just that I can't be sure the job was done right. And having owned cars that had bodywork done by prior owners, I'm all too familiar with how costly body repair can get. So if someone cut the fenders but didn't seal them up properly or just generally compromised the metal, I don't want to be the one dealing with the inevitable rust that appears down the road.
But I was in your place and really set on over fenders, I'd make sure to thoroughly document the process. That way, you can show buyers you did the job properly. I'd be a LOT more confident buying from someone who had lots of documentation.
Are you wanting to sell or do you just feel obliged to? It doesn't make sense to throw more money into the car when you know you're going to sell in the near-ish future. I personally wouldn't consider buying an s2k with over fenders, but then I wouldn't buy one with rolled quarters either. It's not that I don't like those things, it's just that I can't be sure the job was done right. And having owned cars that had bodywork done by prior owners, I'm all too familiar with how costly body repair can get. So if someone cut the fenders but didn't seal them up properly or just generally compromised the metal, I don't want to be the one dealing with the inevitable rust that appears down the road.
But I was in your place and really set on over fenders, I'd make sure to thoroughly document the process. That way, you can show buyers you did the job properly. I'd be a LOT more confident buying from someone who had lots of documentation.
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Hah too late for that one!
This is my feeling too…should I regret not doing the car how I want? Or regret devaluing the car by $XXX.XX amount. hmm..
Yup, I know this is true too. Hard decision!
Yeah I don’t think I’ll be in a money crunch, I just hate to lose money on something I don’t need to. But then it comes down to doing what I want to the car, so I’m leaning towards doing it…
Ryan, very good points. I can definitely see good condition S2000’s being rare in another 4 years.
Yup, I am the same. Wouldn’t buy a modded car…I made sure I bought this car bone stock when I got it in 07. If I go ahead with the over fenders, I will be sure to document the process—very good idea.
I am not 100% sure i am going to sell, but realistically i can't see me owning more than 1 car in the future, unless i boost my salary by quite a bit, especially if i plan to have a family. I've owned 4 cars at one time before and recently sold my integra, leaving only my s2000 left. I know that it's purely a luxury to have more than 1 car. Also, i know that it would be very selfish of me to keep my s2000 when we couldn't even fit a family of 3 in the car. So i'm just assuming that i will sell it one day, probably when i have a child, which will definitely be in the next 3-4 years.
If I see mine I plan on selling it to another enthusiast. You can get more money by going back to stock and parting out, but the way I think about it, is are you building the car to enjoy or are you building it thinking about selling it. I say if you really like the over fender, do it and just leave it that way if you sell it.
I've sold a couple of modded cars in the past. Both were infinitely more difficult to sell than they would have been stock. I sat on a midly modded RSX for almost 4 months before the thing finally moved, and I still have parts sitting in my basement a year later.
Keep it stock, or at least easily reversible if you feel like you'll need to unload it in the near future.
Keep it stock, or at least easily reversible if you feel like you'll need to unload it in the near future.
At the end of the day, you're going to have this for another couple of years ... at most you're losing the money you spent on the fender work and it may take a little more time to sell but like one of the previous responses the car is for your pleasure today and your mods shouldn't be decided by resale value unless you're in a money crunch and can't afford to lose money on a car
Chris, I've debated this several if not 100 times already about the over fenders... I had a 350z and went with the veilside widebody and have regretted it very much ever since doing that. I think of it as a learning tool. Do you ever plan on letting go of this car in the future? I know for myself I am never happy with a cars current state and I will always be modding the car to the newest latest and greatest so to speak... IMO I would never by a car that has had modded fenders except for the usual fender roll. My general opinion is that trying to find a buyer with the exact tastes that you have has made your buyer options (should you ever want to let go of that car)decrease a dramatic amount. My suggestion is that you leave the rear fenders OEM and keep all of the OEM reversable parts on hand should you need to sell the car later down the road.
Remember as the S2000 gets older the price will inflate for low mileage good example clean OEM models, but for the average Joe who drives this car as you can see in the market most 18-25 year olds are crashing these cars like nobody's business really like it's a game... So I would think in the next 5 years were gonna start to see that the S2000 is becoming a very rare car and more so "garage-kept" so that these can re-sale at a higher value just like the supra's.
How many were brought to the U.S? 65k? Don't quote that number but being a 10+ year old car now (ap1's) how many have crashed and been totaled out or are now parts doners. That's the real question.
Your car is very clean and subtle, if you don't want to sell it down the road or go in the mind set of knowing that you will decrease the re-sale value then I say go for it...
I like your car the way it is! No... I love your car the way it sits right now, less is more Chris and you sir have obtained THE most IMO.
/>/>/>/> Ryan, congrats on the marriage!
P.S my experience includes a JDM 99 integra type-r, rb26 S13, Twin turbo 350z, 500+ WHP 300zx, 500+ WHP r32 GTR, and a 380 WHP FD3S With a wide body. Yes I am a nissan fan
No body will know the abuse the car has been through or if the mods have been done correctly and professionally half of these cars have been re-built the first day the new owner has taken possession of them. Just for good measures and I do the exact same thing.
Remember as the S2000 gets older the price will inflate for low mileage good example clean OEM models, but for the average Joe who drives this car as you can see in the market most 18-25 year olds are crashing these cars like nobody's business really like it's a game... So I would think in the next 5 years were gonna start to see that the S2000 is becoming a very rare car and more so "garage-kept" so that these can re-sale at a higher value just like the supra's.
How many were brought to the U.S? 65k? Don't quote that number but being a 10+ year old car now (ap1's) how many have crashed and been totaled out or are now parts doners. That's the real question.
Your car is very clean and subtle, if you don't want to sell it down the road or go in the mind set of knowing that you will decrease the re-sale value then I say go for it...
I like your car the way it is! No... I love your car the way it sits right now, less is more Chris and you sir have obtained THE most IMO.
/>/>/>/> Ryan, congrats on the marriage!P.S my experience includes a JDM 99 integra type-r, rb26 S13, Twin turbo 350z, 500+ WHP 300zx, 500+ WHP r32 GTR, and a 380 WHP FD3S With a wide body. Yes I am a nissan fan
No body will know the abuse the car has been through or if the mods have been done correctly and professionally half of these cars have been re-built the first day the new owner has taken possession of them. Just for good measures and I do the exact same thing.I really like your car, it's one of my favorites on the forum! Definitely an inspiration.
/>/>/>/> Are you wanting to sell or do you just feel obliged to? It doesn't make sense to throw more money into the car when you know you're going to sell in the near-ish future.
I personally wouldn't consider buying an s2k with over fenders, but then I wouldn't buy one with rolled quarters either. It's not that I don't like those things, it's just that I can't be sure the job was done right. And having owned cars that had bodywork done by prior owners, I'm all too familiar with how costly body repair can get. So if someone cut the fenders but didn't seal them up properly or just generally compromised the metal, I don't want to be the one dealing with the inevitable rust that appears down the road.
But I was in your place and really set on over fenders, I'd make sure to thoroughly document the process. That way, you can show buyers you did the job properly. I'd be a LOT more confident buying from someone who had lots of documentation.
/>/>/>/> Are you wanting to sell or do you just feel obliged to? It doesn't make sense to throw more money into the car when you know you're going to sell in the near-ish future. I personally wouldn't consider buying an s2k with over fenders, but then I wouldn't buy one with rolled quarters either. It's not that I don't like those things, it's just that I can't be sure the job was done right. And having owned cars that had bodywork done by prior owners, I'm all too familiar with how costly body repair can get. So if someone cut the fenders but didn't seal them up properly or just generally compromised the metal, I don't want to be the one dealing with the inevitable rust that appears down the road.
But I was in your place and really set on over fenders, I'd make sure to thoroughly document the process. That way, you can show buyers you did the job properly. I'd be a LOT more confident buying from someone who had lots of documentation.
I am not 100% sure i am going to sell, but realistically i can't see me owning more than 1 car in the future, unless i boost my salary by quite a bit, especially if i plan to have a family. I've owned 4 cars at one time before and recently sold my integra, leaving only my s2000 left. I know that it's purely a luxury to have more than 1 car. Also, i know that it would be very selfish of me to keep my s2000 when we couldn't even fit a family of 3 in the car. So i'm just assuming that i will sell it one day, probably when i have a child, which will definitely be in the next 3-4 years.
A man is not complete until he's married, then he's finished.
So long you understand the consequences of heavy mods, go nuts if you'll enjoy the ride for however long it lasts. Mods are very rarely an investment, they're an expense, and a rather big one too.
So long you understand the consequences of heavy mods, go nuts if you'll enjoy the ride for however long it lasts. Mods are very rarely an investment, they're an expense, and a rather big one too.







