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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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http://grand-am.com/assets/GTRules.pdf

Their are two classes:

Prep 1 (stock chassis) and
Prep 2 (tube-frame chassis = not a real car)


The RX8 is a prep 2 car with a tube-frame, 3-rotor, sequential transmission, and dosn't share much atall with its production car counterpart. Heck they even have a Pontiac GXP-R in Prep 2. (Stock they are FWD)

An S2000 dosn't and most likely can't generate enough power with it's engine size restraints. Grand Am dosn't like forced induction and also doesn't seem to want an S2000 even in the ST (lowest Koni Class) class.

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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interesting stuff
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Billj747,Jan 27 2008, 09:37 PM
http://grand-am.com/assets/GTRules.pdf



An S2000 dosn't and most likely can't generate enough power with it's engine size restraints. Grand Am dosn't like forced induction and also doesn't seem to want an S2000 even in the ST (lowest Koni Class) class.

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Thanx for the rules.

As someone else mentioned, very interesting.

I have always wondered what drove some of the rule books. It appears that the manufacturers have a lot of input since they always seem to favor one brand or the other. Maybe Honda's just not interested enough in competition to give their input to any of the governing bodies.

Other than Formula classes you don't see the Honda's much. Any of you who track your cars know the S fares very well on a level playing field, it is just that other than track days there are very few level playing fields to play in.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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With enough money and a team pushing to lobby for the car... anything can happen.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Honda will need to have interest. The s2k is a little old to begin touting as a race car.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Grand Am dosn't like cars that are not currently in production to compete. If the car model is 5 years old, its not allowed to race.

If a private team pushed hard to have it in a class (some have), it might be able to compete in ST... but their wasn't enough demand or pushing to have the car compete so it never did...
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:10 AM
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[QUOTE=Willie Gee,Jan 27 2008, 06:04 PM] There were Acura's in the Koni challenge.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Billj747,Jan 28 2008, 09:30 PM
If a private team pushed hard to have it in a class (some have), it might be able to compete in ST... but their wasn't enough demand or pushing to have the car compete so it never did...
Bill, several private teams DID push hard to get an S2000 classified. At first Grand-Am refused, claiming the car would be too slow. When the private teams came back with lap times showing they would be beating many of the cars already in there, then Grand-Am assessed them a really ridiculous weight penalty. Technically they could have been entered at that point, but no one bothered.

It became clear that allowing an S2000 to come in and show up some of the other marques was not part of Grand-Am's business plan. Eventually the private teams gave up.

It's possible that Honda could have gotten them in, but Honda seems a lot more interested in establishing Acura as the racing brand (other than in F1). Honda didn't want the competition either.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Billj747,Jan 27 2008, 10:37 PM
http://grand-am.com/assets/GTRules.pdf

Their are two classes:

Prep 1 (stock chassis) and
Prep 2 (tube-frame chassis = not a real car)


The RX8 is a prep 2 car with a tube-frame, 3-rotor, sequential transmission, and dosn't share much atall with its production car counterpart. Heck they even have a Pontiac GXP-R in Prep 2. (Stock they are FWD)

An S2000 dosn't and most likely can't generate enough power with it's engine size restraints. Grand Am dosn't like forced induction and also doesn't seem to want an S2000 even in the ST (lowest Koni Class) class.

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Wow! Thanks for posting that. I could tell the RX8 had a sequential trans, but I had no idea it was a three-rotor. I just thought it was so well-sorted that they were THAT fast.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kdlope01,Jan 26 2008, 01:01 PM
So I am watching the Rolex 24 on speed at daytona and I see Porches, BMW, Corvette, even Mustangs Cobra, Pontiac GXP, and even Mazda RX8 so why is there no s2000 or NSX
I didn't know Porches could race..

Porsches can though..

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