S2000 CR Baseline Dyno
Originally Posted by Sr2oD3,Mar 7 2008, 10:12 AM
this thread is full of
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to the OP, congrats on the new CR!!
what are the main differences in the "sport exhaust"?
and 
to the OP, congrats on the new CR!!
what are the main differences in the "sport exhaust"?
AP2's put down those numbers and its not because its DBW. The ecu tunes are different and its a 2.2L. Most of the atlanta guys run K&N FIPK intake because it flattens out your torque curve and gives you 160ft lbs of torque @ 2300 RPMs!!! (with an emanage ultimate) this also allows for 251 RWHP too. So stop the bitching and grow up guys lol Honda made the AP2's more powerful *shrug* so that means AP2 > AP1!!! MUAHAHAHAA
Originally Posted by Boofster,Mar 7 2008, 03:14 AM
They should really fix that dyno.
I don't believe any of the plots that come out of Churchs.
Regardless of the numbers, in teh long run, the % gain via tuning is what i'm more interested in, and Shawn's reputation as a tuner is more than enough to offset high dyno readings in my mind.
Originally Posted by MeFryRice,Mar 7 2008, 10:56 AM
But then people would quit going there since they know they won't dyno as high.
I don't believe any of the plots that come out of Churchs.
I don't believe any of the plots that come out of Churchs.
There is some ignorance in this thread.
Originally Posted by bullitt5897,Mar 7 2008, 08:59 AM
AP2's put down those numbers and its not because its DBW. The ecu tunes are different and its a 2.2L. Most of the atlanta guys run K&N FIPK intake because it flattens out your torque curve and gives you 160ft lbs of torque @ 2300 RPMs!!! (with an emanage ultimate) this also allows for 251 RWHP too. So stop the bitching and grow up guys lol Honda made the AP2's more powerful *shrug* so that means AP2 > AP1!!! MUAHAHAHAA
Originally Posted by qbmurderer13,Mar 6 2008, 08:50 PM
How does the DBW affect hp numbers at all.....? It will open the throttle body just as much as any other s2k.... 

How does the Dynapack work?
The theory of operation and the implementation of that theory is actually fairly simple. It took several years and a lot of hard work however to make our dyno as simple as it is today. The hubs of the vehicle are directly attached to hydraulic pumps. We can apply a variable but precise load with all of the potential holding power that hydraulics possess. Simultaneously, we are monitoring pressures and measuring hub RPM, so we can determine the amount of work being performed. It sounds easy until you realize that all of these calculations are very complex and are happening very quickly. Add to this, all of the data logging functions and real-time full-color graphics that are also being calculated and you begin to realize that what appears to be simple is actually very complex. Being the best is never easy. Traditionally, most serious engine builders have thought that chassis dynamometers were inferior to the results you could obtain from a quality engine dyno. We have effectively attached engine dyno style load cells to the axles, so we now have the type of precision and repeatability normally associated with an engine dyno, but with the convenience and benefit of having the engine operate in its natural environment - which has enabled many of our customers to see better results than they were getting on their engine dyno.
How is a Dynapack different?
The first and most obvious difference is the elimination of the tire to roller interface on a conventional roller dyno. The Dynapack eliminates this variable by using a hub adapter that provides a direct coupling to our Power Absorption Units. There can be no tire slip, no rolling resistance, and no chance of the vehicle coming off of the dyno at high speeds. Notice that we call this a variable. Sometimes it may be a problem area, other times it may not. Tire temperature, pressure, traction, etc, are all variables that can change - not only from run to run, but during the run as well. Throw an unknown variable like this into the equation and your data has now become subject to a potentially high margin of error. It is obviously better if these variables could be eliminated - which is exactly what we have done. There are other associated problems with the roller method as well. Take tie-down straps for example. Most roller dynos use ratcheting tie-down straps to attempt to hold the vehicle in position while being tested. If the straps are cinched down tightly, the tire has become loaded even further, in an unpredictable manner. While this may be good for enhancing traction, it changes the rolling resistance of the tire - skewing the data further. Since these tie-down straps aren
The theory of operation and the implementation of that theory is actually fairly simple. It took several years and a lot of hard work however to make our dyno as simple as it is today. The hubs of the vehicle are directly attached to hydraulic pumps. We can apply a variable but precise load with all of the potential holding power that hydraulics possess. Simultaneously, we are monitoring pressures and measuring hub RPM, so we can determine the amount of work being performed. It sounds easy until you realize that all of these calculations are very complex and are happening very quickly. Add to this, all of the data logging functions and real-time full-color graphics that are also being calculated and you begin to realize that what appears to be simple is actually very complex. Being the best is never easy. Traditionally, most serious engine builders have thought that chassis dynamometers were inferior to the results you could obtain from a quality engine dyno. We have effectively attached engine dyno style load cells to the axles, so we now have the type of precision and repeatability normally associated with an engine dyno, but with the convenience and benefit of having the engine operate in its natural environment - which has enabled many of our customers to see better results than they were getting on their engine dyno.
How is a Dynapack different?
The first and most obvious difference is the elimination of the tire to roller interface on a conventional roller dyno. The Dynapack eliminates this variable by using a hub adapter that provides a direct coupling to our Power Absorption Units. There can be no tire slip, no rolling resistance, and no chance of the vehicle coming off of the dyno at high speeds. Notice that we call this a variable. Sometimes it may be a problem area, other times it may not. Tire temperature, pressure, traction, etc, are all variables that can change - not only from run to run, but during the run as well. Throw an unknown variable like this into the equation and your data has now become subject to a potentially high margin of error. It is obviously better if these variables could be eliminated - which is exactly what we have done. There are other associated problems with the roller method as well. Take tie-down straps for example. Most roller dynos use ratcheting tie-down straps to attempt to hold the vehicle in position while being tested. If the straps are cinched down tightly, the tire has become loaded even further, in an unpredictable manner. While this may be good for enhancing traction, it changes the rolling resistance of the tire - skewing the data further. Since these tie-down straps aren





