S2000 on the Nurburgring ?
Anyone know of any videos of the S on the Nurburgring or maybe just some lap times? I'm just curious how it compares to some other cars on the Ring.
Thanks
Thanks
I have the BMI #1 vid on VHS; at the end there's bonus footage of the S2000 at the 'Ring (complete lap, full balls-to-the-wall). I clocked it manually at 8:12 BTG - pretty damn good.
Now if only I could get a TV tuner I'd host the vid...
Now if only I could get a TV tuner I'd host the vid...
I can't find the original referece html, so I'll just post the numbers from it (BTW, there was debate over the Corvette. I believe it was an automatic C5, but not sure):
COMPARISON OF DIFFERENT SPORTSCARS ON THE RACE TRACK
(Data from German car magazine Sport Auto, which is affiliated to German Auto, Motor und Sport) Cars were driven by the same driver, dry pavement and almost same pavement temperature.
Nuerburgring Nordschleife (length 20,6 km):
Porsche 996 Turbo --- 7 min. 56 sec.
Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 HP, racing suspension) --- 7 min. 57 sec.
Porsche 996 GT3 --- 8 min. 03 sec.
Ferrari 550 --- 8 min. 07 sec.
Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 8 min. 09 sec.
Ferrari 360 Modena --- 8 min. 09 sec.
Chrysler Viper GTS --- 8 min. 10 sec.
Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version) --- 8 min. 12 sec.
Porsche 996 C2 --- 8 min. 17 sec.
Ferrari F355 --- 8 min. 18 sec.
BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 22 sec.
Porsche 993 C2 --- 8 min. 28 sec.
BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 8 min. 28 sec.
Porsche Boxster S --- 8 min. 32 sec.
BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 35 sec. <--- E36 M3Euro
Honda NSX --- 8 min. 38 sec.
Honda S 2000 --- 8 min. 39 sec.
Chevrolet Corvette --- 8 min. 40 sec.
Audi S4 (265 HP) --- 8 min. 42 sec.
Jaguar XKR Coupe --- 8 min. 49 sec.
Mercedes CLK 430 --- 8 min. 52 sec.
Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs (length 2,6 km):
Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 HP, racing suspension) --- 1 min. 12,3 sec.
Porsche 993 Turbo --- 1 min. 14,3 sec.
Porsche 996 Turbo --- 1 min. 14,6 sec.
Porsche 996 GT3 --- 1 min. 14,9 sec.
Ferrari 360 Modena --- 1 min. 15,1 sec.
Ferrari F355 --- 1 min. 15,3 sec.
Porsche 996 C2 --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.
Chrysler Viper GTS --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.
Ferrari 550 --- 1 min. 16,1 sec.
Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 1 min. 16,4 sec.
BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 17,2 sec.
Chevrolet Corvette --- 1 min. 18,2 sec.
Porsche Boxster S --- 1 min. 18,3 sec.
Porsche 993 C2 --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.
Honda NSX --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.
BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 18,4 sec. <- E36 Euro
BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 1 min. 18,5 sec.
Honda S 2000 --- 1 min. 18,9 sec.
Porsche Boxster --- 1 min. 19,3 sec.
Mercedes CLK 430 --- 1 min. 20,8 sec
COMPARISON OF DIFFERENT SPORTSCARS ON THE RACE TRACK
(Data from German car magazine Sport Auto, which is affiliated to German Auto, Motor und Sport) Cars were driven by the same driver, dry pavement and almost same pavement temperature.
Nuerburgring Nordschleife (length 20,6 km):
Porsche 996 Turbo --- 7 min. 56 sec.
Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 HP, racing suspension) --- 7 min. 57 sec.
Porsche 996 GT3 --- 8 min. 03 sec.
Ferrari 550 --- 8 min. 07 sec.
Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 8 min. 09 sec.
Ferrari 360 Modena --- 8 min. 09 sec.
Chrysler Viper GTS --- 8 min. 10 sec.
Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version) --- 8 min. 12 sec.
Porsche 996 C2 --- 8 min. 17 sec.
Ferrari F355 --- 8 min. 18 sec.
BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 22 sec.
Porsche 993 C2 --- 8 min. 28 sec.
BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 8 min. 28 sec.
Porsche Boxster S --- 8 min. 32 sec.
BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 35 sec. <--- E36 M3Euro
Honda NSX --- 8 min. 38 sec.
Honda S 2000 --- 8 min. 39 sec.
Chevrolet Corvette --- 8 min. 40 sec.
Audi S4 (265 HP) --- 8 min. 42 sec.
Jaguar XKR Coupe --- 8 min. 49 sec.
Mercedes CLK 430 --- 8 min. 52 sec.
Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs (length 2,6 km):
Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 HP, racing suspension) --- 1 min. 12,3 sec.
Porsche 993 Turbo --- 1 min. 14,3 sec.
Porsche 996 Turbo --- 1 min. 14,6 sec.
Porsche 996 GT3 --- 1 min. 14,9 sec.
Ferrari 360 Modena --- 1 min. 15,1 sec.
Ferrari F355 --- 1 min. 15,3 sec.
Porsche 996 C2 --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.
Chrysler Viper GTS --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.
Ferrari 550 --- 1 min. 16,1 sec.
Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 1 min. 16,4 sec.
BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 17,2 sec.
Chevrolet Corvette --- 1 min. 18,2 sec.
Porsche Boxster S --- 1 min. 18,3 sec.
Porsche 993 C2 --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.
Honda NSX --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.
BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 18,4 sec. <- E36 Euro
BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 1 min. 18,5 sec.
Honda S 2000 --- 1 min. 18,9 sec.
Porsche Boxster --- 1 min. 19,3 sec.
Mercedes CLK 430 --- 1 min. 20,8 sec
8:39 by a pro driver driving for Sports Auto. Compare that to these times but the same driver/magazine:
- 911 GT3 = 8:03
- F360 = 8:09
- NSX-R = 8:09
- Viper = 8:10
- SL55 AMG = 8:12
- 911 = 8:17
- e46 M3 = 8.22
- EVO VI = 8:24
- BoxsterS = 8:32
- 911 GT3 = 8:03
- F360 = 8:09
- NSX-R = 8:09
- Viper = 8:10
- SL55 AMG = 8:12
- 911 = 8:17
- e46 M3 = 8.22
- EVO VI = 8:24
- BoxsterS = 8:32
Alex, I like your time of 8:12..........
the others kinda disappoint me. It's seems that just about everything is faster than our S.
Is it because of the rough surface of the Ring? Or am I just making excuses.
the others kinda disappoint me. It's seems that just about everything is faster than our S.
Is it because of the rough surface of the Ring? Or am I just making excuses.
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Actually, J.T the 8:12 S2000 time is BTG (bridge to gantry). Because the Nordschleife is blocked off halfway down the front straight (this is where the entrance/exit is located), it is impossible to record a full lap. Instead, the 'Ringers start there laptime under neath the 'bridge' and finish it at the overhead 'gantry.' To compensate for the time unaccounted for on the straightaway, it's common practice to add ~30sec to the BTG time to get a full lap.
Originally posted by J.T
Alex, I like your time of 8:12..........
the others kinda disappoint me. It's seems that just about everything is faster than our S.
Is it because of the rough surface of the Ring? Or am I just making excuses.
Alex, I like your time of 8:12..........
the others kinda disappoint me. It's seems that just about everything is faster than our S.
Is it because of the rough surface of the Ring? Or am I just making excuses.
The NSX-R is faster than that. Gan San got a 7:56 in the BM Video Special #55.
Different driver, different day etc. The times I listed (and FCGuy) are all by the same driver, very similar conditions and 100% stock.
the others kinda disappoint me. It's seems that just about everything is faster than our S.
Well look at the cars that are faster there than the S2000. That's all very serious machinery and frankly the S2000 did well to get that time with what it's got.
If you like I can post some slower times as well as there's a lot of cars slower than the S2000 at both N'ring and H'heim KK. Though, for the moment here's some newr times by some newer cars (again, same driver):
- Porsche Boxster '03. 228 PS. 1375kg 2003-02-01, sport auto Supertest = 8:36
- BMW Z3 Coupe 3.0. 231 PS. 1350 kg 2001-04-04, sport auto Supertest = 8:34
- Audi RS 6. 450 PS. 1908 kg 2002-09-01, sport auto Supertest = 8:20
- Aston Martin V12 Vanquish. 469 PS. 1888 kg 2003-01-01, sport auto Supertest = 8:17
- Porsche 911 turbo (993). 430 PS. 1506 kg 1997-05-01, sport auto Supertest = 8:12
- Ferrari 575M Maranello. 515 PS. 1775 kg 2002-12-01, sport auto Supertest = 8:05
- Pagani Zonda S. 555 PS. 1388 kg 2002-07-01, sport auto Supertest = 7:44
Different driver, different day etc. The times I listed (and FCGuy) are all by the same driver, very similar conditions and 100% stock.
the others kinda disappoint me. It's seems that just about everything is faster than our S.
Well look at the cars that are faster there than the S2000. That's all very serious machinery and frankly the S2000 did well to get that time with what it's got.
If you like I can post some slower times as well as there's a lot of cars slower than the S2000 at both N'ring and H'heim KK. Though, for the moment here's some newr times by some newer cars (again, same driver):
- Porsche Boxster '03. 228 PS. 1375kg 2003-02-01, sport auto Supertest = 8:36
- BMW Z3 Coupe 3.0. 231 PS. 1350 kg 2001-04-04, sport auto Supertest = 8:34
- Audi RS 6. 450 PS. 1908 kg 2002-09-01, sport auto Supertest = 8:20
- Aston Martin V12 Vanquish. 469 PS. 1888 kg 2003-01-01, sport auto Supertest = 8:17
- Porsche 911 turbo (993). 430 PS. 1506 kg 1997-05-01, sport auto Supertest = 8:12
- Ferrari 575M Maranello. 515 PS. 1775 kg 2002-12-01, sport auto Supertest = 8:05
- Pagani Zonda S. 555 PS. 1388 kg 2002-07-01, sport auto Supertest = 7:44





