Is the s2000 right for me?
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From: Dry Branch
Originally Posted by imnida,Jun 9 2008, 01:33 AM
Hey hey hey, hold on a minute. I've spun out myself but in no way do I blame the car. Road was wet after a nice rain, 2nd gear reaching vtec, one left turn. No damages to the car, no damages to other cars, no deaths, just a loss of pride and a lesson learned. I understand that my post has little to no help in the op's post.
But why base a decision on occurance of the car losing control soo much when its the drivers fault in the first place?
Please dont prevoke intelligent displays of bashing, just say im wrong and should edit my post for it being too ignorant.
But why base a decision on occurance of the car losing control soo much when its the drivers fault in the first place?
Please dont prevoke intelligent displays of bashing, just say im wrong and should edit my post for it being too ignorant.
What really got me was your suggestion that sharp handling cars, which are inherently less forgiving than typical cars, wouldn't even be sold. That comment struck me as being extremely ... well, I hate to put it this way, but it struck me as being extremely stupid. I have no idea how you can fix it, because to me, it makes no sense at all. Probably my bad, but it just makes no sense at all to me.
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No gas mid corner unless you're way below the car's limit, no LIFT or braking mid corner while in gear, and watch how fast you change steering inputs.
If you can follow these you'll probably be fine... but you probably won't and you'll freak yourself out at some point.
If you can follow these you'll probably be fine... but you probably won't and you'll freak yourself out at some point.
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Originally Posted by Rev9K27,Jun 9 2008, 11:45 AM
Brake. Turn. Gas.
But NOT all at the same time!
But NOT all at the same time!
Accelerating off a corner at the limit of grip might also be seen as an advanced skill, though I think most people consider it one of the most basic skills.
If you don't learn to brake and/or accelerate while cornering you can actually end up limiting your options when unexpected things happen, but if you don't have a safe venue for learning, then I agree with you. This car can be very unforgiving if you aren't able to keep it balanced while cornering and braking or accelerating.
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From: Crown Point, Indiana
[QUOTE=RED MX5,Jun 9 2008, 04:45 PM]Many consider trail braking to be an advanced skill, and that's probably the safest way to view it.
Accelerating off a corner at the limit of grip might also be seen as an advanced skill, though I think most people consider it one of the most basic skills.
If you don't learn to brake and/or accelerate while cornering you can actually end up limiting your options when unexpected things happen, but if you don't have a safe venue for learning, then I agree with you.
Accelerating off a corner at the limit of grip might also be seen as an advanced skill, though I think most people consider it one of the most basic skills.
If you don't learn to brake and/or accelerate while cornering you can actually end up limiting your options when unexpected things happen, but if you don't have a safe venue for learning, then I agree with you.
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Originally Posted by wanabmmaboy,Jun 6 2008, 04:30 AM
"The S2000 will do what you tell it to."
Depending on experience and skill level. This is either a great thing. Or a bad thing.
Depending on experience and skill level. This is either a great thing. Or a bad thing.
The car can be a very safe car if driven responsibly. Its like dealing with a woman...Beat her and she will call the cops but be nice to her and she will treat you well
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From: Corinth, MS
I remember my first FRONT drive car, I was afraid that I wouldn't know how to drive it, and it might not steer in a corner, and drive straight off the road, and now kids are worried that their cars might steer too much and go right off the road backwards! Neat.
Go buy an S2000. Learning is fun!
Go buy an S2000. Learning is fun!
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From: Dry Branch
[QUOTE=Rev9K27,Jun 9 2008, 09:07 PM]
I was being a little simplistic with my approach in helping this person out in
deciding whether to purchase a rear wheel drive sports car such as
the S2k. The "Brake. Turn. Accelerate." idea is a good place to start
on public twisty roads. An environment, such as an autocross,
is great place to start practicing intermediate to advanced skills as you stated.
Many people (myself included) have a tendency to hit the gas or the brake too hard
in the middle of the corner. I did this at a recent autocross event and found myself
hitting a bunch of cones after going into the corner too hot and braking hard.
But in a safe environment ... no harm done (except for the cones).
I was being a little simplistic with my approach in helping this person out in
deciding whether to purchase a rear wheel drive sports car such as
the S2k. The "Brake. Turn. Accelerate." idea is a good place to start
on public twisty roads. An environment, such as an autocross,
is great place to start practicing intermediate to advanced skills as you stated.
Many people (myself included) have a tendency to hit the gas or the brake too hard
in the middle of the corner. I did this at a recent autocross event and found myself
hitting a bunch of cones after going into the corner too hot and braking hard.
But in a safe environment ... no harm done (except for the cones).