I was reading the thread on drifting the S2K..and downloaded several AVI's of someone trying to drift the S2K in a curve on a wet track... EACH time he spun out. He was turning the wheel correctly until full lock, and still spun out..

What was/is the correct thing to do with the throttle/break in this situation to prevent the spinout?

-- Aaron

 

IMO the correct thing to do would have been to mount new S0-2s on the rear. Or maybe better yet, get a set of S03s for use in the wet. There's just no way you're going to balance a car that's hydroplaning.

 

Once a car is hydroplaning, you're not 'drifting' it anymore, you're just along for the ride. A touch less throttle, and more attention to avoiding a front-end hydroplaning (ie don't let the front tires get 'sideways' to the direction of travel - ever, as this will almost surely result in hydroplaning, and thus useless front tires) would be the likely avanues to explore. Full lock isn't always the correct way to control a drift, and in fact the throttle is much more important than steering wheel position. And of course, as Tox pointed out, worn S0-2s would make this a terribly difficult thing to do...

 

take your car out right now (cause its pouring rain outside) to a big parking lot and practice away. I think you'll notice the difference in hydro-planing and drifting.

 

Thats a damn fine idea except I don't wanna have to clean it :-)
-- Aaron

 

In the driving class that we took, we were told to get off the gas and countersteer as soon as you felt the back end break loose. Also was told to countersteer all the way over, since it's better to overcorrect than to not correct enough.

We took some cars out onto a skid pan (similar to what you saw in the videos) and caused the back end to break loose by giving it gas when going around a corner. The only corrective measure for this was to let off hte gas and countersteer. If you didn;t do it fast enough, you pretty much spun out.

 

You should not use any pedals and keep your eye on the road you are on no matter where the car is pointing.

 

Imo. To prevent spinout in that situation is to initially not give it too much gas that caused the initial overseer. Once you pass the "threshold" no amount of counter steer or letting go of gas will help especially slick surface. Letting go of gas just lets you sit sideways instead of full 180. If you kick the clutch when wet keep lower rpm than dry. If you power over then let go of gas and feather immediately. Don't hold gas until you feel your at the good drift angle, by that time you passed threshold, remember it's wet, it will still slide into the desired angle even after you let go of gas after initiating overseer. Wet surface is trickier but slower speeds keep it safer to practice. If you master wet It makes dry easier...
Here is a video so you fellas don't think I'm just acting like I know. Yes it's dry, but I had plenty of rain time. I practice drift with suv in rain tho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmiSbnDjQ9E

 

Holy thread revive batman!

 

Lol. I realized how old this was after post.