Wow...

I never said that the s2k box sucks or grinds on me. (Although I will say when the car is cold, the gearbox is not that great -- I've no idea how a 911 feels under those conditions, so I'm not touching that one.)

All I'm saying is the 911 felt better. Smoother. Maybe it feels vastly different under load, but I somehow doubt it. Perhaps it gets a little loose feeling? I don't know.

Whatever, I still love driving the car.

 

It is actually quite a feat of engineering that a shifter in a car like the 911 should feel so good because of the location of the gearbox. It's just behind the rear seats, so there are a series of linkages from it to the stick. The S2000 shifter is directly connected to the box.

Old cars like the VWs were notoriously for slop and slap in the linkages. Yet I recently drove an 87 MR2 and was impressed by it shifter.

 

i had an Si with short shifter, Prelude w/short shifter, drove my brother's 02 325Ci frequently and have driven wrxs(short shifter)/STIs, GSRs and my s2000 gearbox puts all those to SHAME. granted, some of them are low-class cars, but even the lower class hondas like the ones mentioned have nice gearboxes. honda did a great job with the gearbox, you just have to have experience w/manuals, and get used to it. in the first month of me owning the car, i had some 2nd-3rd grinds going on, but nothing crazy.

as for the post about the clutch not being designed for 8.2k shifts, then why did they put this clutch on a car that revs to 9k? if youre saying its not a design defect that the clutch cant handle the redline of the car its in, then i dont know what a design defect is. thats like saying, "dont use your whole powerband, ever; the clutch cant handle it. that doesnt seem right.
-Chris

 

He was talking about the delay valve in the 04+ cars.

And yes the delay valve is VERY annoying if you shift quickly in VTEC at all... I feel bad for the friction disc everytime the delay valve keeps the clutch from engaging and burns the crap out of the disc.

I really like the feel of the S2000 transmission. I honestly don't think there is anything else in the world that can compare to it's feel. I think that once I get rid of the stupid delay valve I'll be even more happy with it.

 

smoother != better, IMO.

My truck has a smooth shifter - no clicks, no hang ups, just smooth and kinda rubbery/vague, with a rather long throw. The S2000 on the other hand is direct, solid, rapid, and mechanical. It's precise and honest - it lets you know exactly what's going on. And that's an absolutely joy when you want to flog the car.

 

If It's for drag racing,try swapping to a 2 speed powerglide.

 

When they say they used a brass cone for reverse for"smoother shifting and quieter operation" i think that was in comparison to the previously unsyncronized reverse gear. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the 2000-2003s didn't have a syncro on reverse.

 

back in the 80's they said the Prelude had the best gear box. Honda always has built good trannies. However they are not perfect. On my integra GS-R I sometimes need to raise the RPM's a bit to get it into 1st or reverse. has been this way for 10 years (since the day of purchase). My 1986 Accord had the same problem. My S2000 however has been perfect in everyway. I have several friends who have had old and new Porsche's (as well as Corvette, NSX, Ferrari) and all are just amazed by the gearbox in the S2000. I don't think there is a gearbox that compares.

 

I 100% agree. I think this is one of the best aspects of the s2k.

 

I am pretty sure that my 2000 S2K does have a reverse syncro.
I can feel the resistance going into reverse just like going into 1st.

Also, there is NEVER any gear grinding going into reverse. (from tranny winding down... such as in my old toyota 4X4)