Shifting question...
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I was just wondering...if I'm racing and I'm shifting from 3 gear to 4 gear. Will the car let me mis-shift into 2 gear or does the S have a lockout that will not let you back into 2 gear since you are doing 90 MPH already. I have hear from Celica drivers that they have missed shift from 3 to 2 and have blown their motors. Did honda learn from toyota's mistake?
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S2K,
I have done the 3rd gear 90 mph to 2nd gear shift 3 times.
Each time the car slowed down and the tack bounced off the rev limiter a couple times (2-3 times).
I wonder why my engine didn't expire...I guess if I waited to pushed in the clutch a split second longer...good bye f20c.
I have done the 3rd gear 90 mph to 2nd gear shift 3 times.
Each time the car slowed down and the tack bounced off the rev limiter a couple times (2-3 times).
I wonder why my engine didn't expire...I guess if I waited to pushed in the clutch a split second longer...good bye f20c.
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Not sure if its the engine per se. I know the Nissan SR20DE is "bulletproof" as they say, and I had a friend do the 4-3 shift when he wanted to go 4-5. Hit 9k on the tach (if it was an s2000, it'd be ok, right?)... bent rocker arms, found pieces of rocker arms all over the head...
anyhow, its basically just a matter of how fast you spin the engine. Like Unicron said, it he'd been a bit slower pushing the clutch in...
Put it this way. the C5 has a speed of almost 50 in first, a tick over 80 in 2nd. I know a guy that went from 2-1 instead of 3. Bent some pushrods...
Its something that can happen to any car... I guess the amount of damage is really relative to how big of a jump there is from gear to gear in terms of ratios.
I'd think a car with the close ratios of the S2000 would be a little less likely to wreck the engine than something like the Vette with its wider gear ratios.
interestingly, you know about the 1-4 skip that affects the T56 for getting better gas mileage? Someone was working on modding the skip-shift mechanism to work so that when you got into 3rd, you would have the block out working and couldn't go back to 2nd.
neat idea... don't know if he got it to work or not...
anyhow, its basically just a matter of how fast you spin the engine. Like Unicron said, it he'd been a bit slower pushing the clutch in...
Put it this way. the C5 has a speed of almost 50 in first, a tick over 80 in 2nd. I know a guy that went from 2-1 instead of 3. Bent some pushrods...
Its something that can happen to any car... I guess the amount of damage is really relative to how big of a jump there is from gear to gear in terms of ratios.
I'd think a car with the close ratios of the S2000 would be a little less likely to wreck the engine than something like the Vette with its wider gear ratios.
interestingly, you know about the 1-4 skip that affects the T56 for getting better gas mileage? Someone was working on modding the skip-shift mechanism to work so that when you got into 3rd, you would have the block out working and couldn't go back to 2nd.
neat idea... don't know if he got it to work or not...
Originally posted by jackgarlic
I've heard that Celica engines are unreliable that way. And this is only for the GTS. In order to push 180hp out of their 1.8L, they made it very unforgiving with misshifts. Something to do with oil not getting into the first and fourth cylinders really well. This is supposedly only for new Celicas though (new as in not fully breaked in). [/B]
I've heard that Celica engines are unreliable that way. And this is only for the GTS. In order to push 180hp out of their 1.8L, they made it very unforgiving with misshifts. Something to do with oil not getting into the first and fourth cylinders really well. This is supposedly only for new Celicas though (new as in not fully breaked in). [/B]