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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
You should get an alignment simply as a matter of best practice when putting on a new set of tires.

Tires (and maybe alignment) should fix it. My ap2 is absolutely planted in the rain. S04 tires in good shape, lowered slightly on stock shocks. Stock alignment specs.
yeah I plan on getting an alignment once I put my coils and wheels on
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 09:24 AM
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Just curious... what was the outside temp, and are you summer tires? If it's frigid, summer tires behave terribly.
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by datadr
Just curious... what was the outside temp, and are you summer tires? If it's frigid, summer tires behave terribly.
defienetly colder about 55 degrees , and I have Yokohama s drives currently which we be considered a summer tire I guess
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Deckoz
check your alignment.


rear needs zero toe. When I got my S it had slight rear toe in, and it was sketchy as **** on the highway in the rain(01 ap1)

zero toe and planted, but still don't like driving in the rain. lol
static zero toe is likely toe out when driving, this sounds like a bad idea for our cars

zero toe front and a small amount of rear toe in is an alignment on the slightly more aggressive side
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 10:44 AM
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As you approach 40 degrees, summer performances tires degrade quite a bit, according to Michelin, Car and Track and others sources. In addition, when rain first begins after a dry period, oils and other contaminents come to the surface making things slippery.

Changing surfaces, as others have pointed out, can suddenly affect traction. I recall a number of accident threads when an S driver hit the steel mesh on a bridge and lost control.
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by S2K Tae
defienetly colder about 55 degrees , and I have Yokohama s drives currently which we be considered a summer tire I guess
55 deg. should have been OK. If it was 40 or lower (as Cosmomiller mentioned) I would suspect that being part of it, but summer tires should be fine at 55.
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Old Apr 6, 2019 | 10:06 AM
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I've had the same issues since I put my coilovers on and my toe came out of wack. Check your alignment.
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Old Apr 8, 2019 | 08:15 AM
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Alignment and/or tires.
I've driven through massive rainfall and standing water in mine and it's remained planted and confidently footed. I've got new PSS tires and recent US spec alignment.
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Old Apr 8, 2019 | 08:55 AM
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Sometime the highways are really damaged because of heavy truck traffic and you are essentially driving in a couple of ruts.
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Deckoz
check your alignment.


rear needs zero toe. When I got my S it had slight rear toe in, and it was sketchy as **** on the highway in the rain(01 ap1)

zero toe and planted, but still don't like driving in the rain. lol
That's a hard no. Unless you have a rear bumpsteer kit AND that kit has been properly tuned and measured through the suspension range of travel AND you have zero deflection spherical bushings at every suspension connection point, then running "zero toe" in the rear is going to make the car loose and unpredictable, especially when braking, because the bumpsteer and suspension deflection cause toe out as the rear unloads.

The stock alignment is slight toe-in in the rear and zero in the front and that works pretty well for most folks unless they have the above heavy modifications to support less rear toe.
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