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Snap Oversteer

Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:15 AM
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The car definitely is subject to snap oversteer (regardless of the owners in denial) and the suspension in later models was re-tuned to reduce the tendency. A heavier front sway bar, careful attention to tire condition, and most important some seat time to learn the idiosyncrasies of this platform are suggested.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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dude if you own a TVR....then you can drive anything!!...tvr's are raw driving beasts...and need a very capable and confident driver to kick it at high speed....you'll have no probs...
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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Hoenda,

I don't think the S2000 has snap oversteer issues more than any other sports car does. Sure, it's more finicky and will oversteer much easier than a typical passenger car, but what sports car doesn't?

I have oversteered and pulled a 180 in my S2000 before, but that's because I was being a jackass and didn't know its limits. Sadly enough, this seems to be a stunt I pull once in every sports car...I never truly know its limits until it happens.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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Just today on a clover leaf exit I had a bit of oversteer which was easily corrected. Respect the car, check tire pressure etc.., know your limits and road conditions and you'll be fine. I went to s03s after the oe so2s because for daily street use I was willing to give up ultimate dry grip. Even new I remember how the rear came around (caught in time) w/ the so2s in the rain doing a tight radius 'u' turn at +/- 20 mph. Actually, it's the snap you need to be vigilante for - the car has so much grip that one can become over confident. My 2c.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 01:47 PM
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after owning this car for 1 year now, and 3 track days, i;d like to say if anyone tells you the car has snap oversteer they dont know how to drive. OR are pushing it way to hard on the street.

the car handles very nicely. no issues with snap oversteer, just dont chicken lift mid corner.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Silvers808
[B]after owning this car for 1 year now, and 3 track days, i;d like to say if anyone tells you the car has snap oversteer they dont know how to drive. OR are pushing it way to hard on the street.

the car handles very nicely. no issues with snap oversteer,
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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Pre-water cooled Porsche's wrote the book on snap oversteer! It was their nom de plume!
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by PeaceLove&S2K
Does the KL refer to Kuala Lumpur, and the MY Malaysia?

If so and welcome aboard. I'm from Penang.
I was from KL... about 18 years ago... still go back every year or two...
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by cdelena


I think I know how to drive and have done a hell of a lot more than three track days.. the car is a real handful at the limit with totally unforgiving breakaway of the rear at times.

First of all the early models are different than the later ones, but mostly I think many have not compared this car at the limit to a well behaved car. Take a stock S2000 to the limit and experience how oversteer comes on quickly (too strong to catch most of the time) and compare it to something like an E36 M3 that is controllable at the limit.

I am not saying this is a poor handling car, but I am saying that 'snap oversteer' at the limit is a characteristic.. one that has been documented by drivers all over the world.
I'd rather this thread not degenerate into another "does it have snap oversteer" thread. It's a pointless debate and really not what I think the author of this thread is talking about. He's talking about worn S02's and driving in the wet and other, not track related or at the limit driving. In the circumstances he has described snap oversteer is not a problem. If you lose the rear end in the wet on the street it was probably your own fault and not a characteristic of the car. At the limit on the track - that's another story and very debatable.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Strike
[B]... If you lose the rear end in the wet on the street it was probably your own fault and not a characteristic of the car.
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