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Speeding ticket ------ please HELP!!!!!

Old Apr 13, 2001 | 02:58 PM
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Are you ready for this?

You told him a speed. Never, NEVER admit to any speed!!

He showed you 88mph, when your detector never went off, and the speed was in fact way above what you had guessed.

GUESS WHAT? He has it locked off at 88mph and gets everyone at 88. Check his tickets for the day some way or another. I'll bet that all the tickets he wrote were 88!!!

No one fights them, and everyone just pays them.

I believe you've been had!!


BIEG, I'm interested in your comments!!
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Old Apr 13, 2001 | 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by Utah S2K
This is why the police radar costs thousands of dollars and our detectors only a few hundred.
This is the sort of non-sequitor reasoning that lawyers feed their kids on. More expensive = more accurate? As for daily calibration logs, who performs those tests? Other pigs? The pig who wields the gun? Independent auditors (doubt it)? The unit itself (don't make me laugh)? What about the historical evidence of the V1 unit's accuracy?

Whatever, the point I'm trying to make is don't eliminate valid defenses because they seem too obvious. I do, however, agree with cdelena's point. The cops are under pressure to generate revenue. They're nothing but modern-day tax collectors.
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Old Apr 13, 2001 | 03:38 PM
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have you ever thought of a radar gun( laser included ) jammer, it bounts behind the bumpers and it will not give the cop a reading, it takes cops signals and returns --- on their readings. And if you were keeping up with traffic, how come he did not stop others before you, ( tell that to the judge ). Two wrongs dont make a right and he should be stopping anyone breaking the law not just select ones!
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Old Apr 13, 2001 | 03:57 PM
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Don't know if this will help but here is one thing that I heard you can do when you get a speeding ticket:

Send in the fine for the ticket but overpay by $5. The city will have to send mail you back the amount that you overpaid and will not close out file if you don't cash the $5 check. The fee will be paid but supposedly since the file is not closed it will not show up on your driving record.

Anyone done this? Does anyone know if it would or would not work?
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Old Apr 13, 2001 | 03:57 PM
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A lazer gun is a direct line of sight device. The unit must be aimed and has a "spotting" scope with cross hairs. Once he's got you in his cross hairs (it doesn't matter how far or close you are) he pulls the trigger and your speed in logged in less than half a second. If he had the thing locked at 88 from a previous speeder and you've been had it'll cost you a bundle to fight it and prove it. Pay the ticket.
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Old Apr 13, 2001 | 05:42 PM
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Well I agree with Chris and Bieg... it is a revenue issue and you have been had. I really believe in the V1, mine has been going off recently and it works well for laser. Trust me be carefull on I20E/W between Mountain Creek pkway and Cedarridge Road in and around Duncanville!(TX) There is a new Sheriff in town and he has Laser... I do not have much faith in the idea that you will be warned by the V1 when he lasers other cars... for 2 reasons... Laser does not spread like radar, and it locks on so quickly that the signal is gone. In the case above, I think it was said the cop was above on a bridge... if he lasered other cars... your V1 would not have gone off, you were not in the line of sight of the laser and he would have been picking and choosing the targets by sighting on them... not leaving the gun on like traditional X_band radar.(also why your V1 did not go off with you behind him.) That being said, I don't think he shot you, or else the V1 would have gone off.(unless your V1 is downrev) There are a couple of web sites that debunk lasers... and provide some defensive responces in court... good luck.
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Old Apr 13, 2001 | 06:16 PM
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S2K Dude, I know what you are talking about. My friend tried to do the same thing but he told me it didn't work. However, I also heard a story saying it did work for someone.
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Old Apr 13, 2001 | 06:38 PM
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You can't depend on a laser detector to warn you of either an upcoming trap or to alert you that you've just been clocked. Laser guns emit a very thin beam that doesn't widen over distance (unlike radar). Atmospheric particles can create minimal dissipation, but nonetheless it's a pretty small beam even when it hits your car. If the cop hits your vehicle well away from your detector, like on the front bumper, it's reasonably likely that the beam won't reach your detector. Good thing that lasers have their disadvantages to the cops, b/c we're all screwed if they become too prevalent.

Sime, how long have you been waiting on that R1? It's not like they're in short supply any more? What's the story there? I just found a buyer for mine!
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Old Apr 14, 2001 | 11:27 AM
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Hi Sime,

I have never actually used it (never been caught before ), but I have always wondered that if you have your windshield wipers on, and they are moving up (i.e. away from the gun), can it add that speed to the vehicle speed causing it to be registered on the read-out???

Maybe it is worth a shot!?

...And yes, I *am* drinking a beer right now!

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Siepel
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Old Apr 14, 2001 | 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Lips2000
Actually, there is a new laser that can move with vehicle. It'd fairly new, less than 1.5 years. I would set a trail by judge and explain the circumstances. Do not mention that your V1 did not go off. Ask what the error rate is; how long had the officer been using the equipment; how long was the office trained; last time trained; line of site...etc...you might get it reduced.

And one last suggestion...go get a Passport 8500!

Mark
One other thing to ask. Tell them to produce the last 3 tickets before yours, and the 3 after yours. See if they are all for the same speed!! I've seen it before, where they don't actually clock people, just pick out the ones they feel are speeding!!
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