Stalling the car, Good or bad?
My question is why is it bad if the car stalls. When people ask if they can drive my car without learning stick, my immediate response is, "no, you'll stall it." But to be honest, I never really understood why its bad even though I know its bad? Can anybody help me out here?
I'm not going to say it's "good" but I don't think it's "bad" either. When you are learning how to drive stick, you usually do one of two things when it comes to clutch work.
1. You stall the car because you did not have enough gas in proportion to the amount of clutch engagement at the time. This is usually a low rpm scenario where the difference between flywheel speed and clutch disc speed is minimal. The engine won't be affected negatively because of the low rpm. The clutch should be fine because it didn't slip very long before the engine stopped. No big deal.
2. You rev the car up a bit but release the clutch a bit on the slow side - after all, you've just stalled the damn thing a gazillion times and you are getting pissed and are determined NOT to stall it a gazillion and one. The clutch slips quite a bit and gets pretty hot. If you do this consecutively many, many times, you may as well just do a clutch drop that went bad.
Bottom line: The S2000 may not be the best car to learn how to drive stick, but it can take it.
1. You stall the car because you did not have enough gas in proportion to the amount of clutch engagement at the time. This is usually a low rpm scenario where the difference between flywheel speed and clutch disc speed is minimal. The engine won't be affected negatively because of the low rpm. The clutch should be fine because it didn't slip very long before the engine stopped. No big deal.
2. You rev the car up a bit but release the clutch a bit on the slow side - after all, you've just stalled the damn thing a gazillion times and you are getting pissed and are determined NOT to stall it a gazillion and one. The clutch slips quite a bit and gets pretty hot. If you do this consecutively many, many times, you may as well just do a clutch drop that went bad.
Bottom line: The S2000 may not be the best car to learn how to drive stick, but it can take it.
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Enlighten the eternally stupid:
What makes the s2k a poor or especially difficult car to operate or learn the clutch on?
My cars have mainly been automatics -- I need a change.
I have just "relearned" the stick on a Civic SI. Didn't seem too difficult after no real "stick time" in the past 8 years.
It was so much fun "being in control" by shifting again. Stalled a few times on the hills, but other than that, pure fun.
And I want an S2K. So I don't power shift it, but just take it easy for a while and enjoy its handling.
I guess my question is, I can do that and not hate the car, right?
Just enlighten me 'cause I'm sure I'm missing something here.
Damn automatic was almost the death of me . . .
What makes the s2k a poor or especially difficult car to operate or learn the clutch on?
My cars have mainly been automatics -- I need a change.
I have just "relearned" the stick on a Civic SI. Didn't seem too difficult after no real "stick time" in the past 8 years.
It was so much fun "being in control" by shifting again. Stalled a few times on the hills, but other than that, pure fun.
And I want an S2K. So I don't power shift it, but just take it easy for a while and enjoy its handling.
I guess my question is, I can do that and not hate the car, right?
Just enlighten me 'cause I'm sure I'm missing something here.
Damn automatic was almost the death of me . . .
I learned stick on my S, and if it were me owning the car and me learning all over again, I would NOT let me learn on this car.
One really bad experience with teaching people how to drive stick on the S is that the clutch is not as forgiving as in Civic's or other econ cars. Even the civic SI, relatlively easy clutch to learn. I recall a "good" friend asking to take my S out for a spin. Being the fool that I was, I believed him when he told me he knew how to drive stick. At the very beginning he pulled that reving up before engaging the clutch. And it wasn't like he stopped doing that, at each start he was doing that.
Then when he shifted from gear to gear... the dumbass revs the engine really high before the clutch engages.
I was in tears for my S, being that it was only a month old and I had just finished breaking her in. When we finally reached a safe area for me to kick him out of the driver seat, I just recalling a lot of yelling
. You wanna know the downside of teaching a person how to drive stick on your S? You'll notice it when you start smelling your burnt clutch
Tell your friend to go find a civic or something cheap, learn on that for a few years then consider letting them drive your S
One really bad experience with teaching people how to drive stick on the S is that the clutch is not as forgiving as in Civic's or other econ cars. Even the civic SI, relatlively easy clutch to learn. I recall a "good" friend asking to take my S out for a spin. Being the fool that I was, I believed him when he told me he knew how to drive stick. At the very beginning he pulled that reving up before engaging the clutch. And it wasn't like he stopped doing that, at each start he was doing that.
Then when he shifted from gear to gear... the dumbass revs the engine really high before the clutch engages. I was in tears for my S, being that it was only a month old and I had just finished breaking her in. When we finally reached a safe area for me to kick him out of the driver seat, I just recalling a lot of yelling
. You wanna know the downside of teaching a person how to drive stick on your S? You'll notice it when you start smelling your burnt clutch
Tell your friend to go find a civic or something cheap, learn on that for a few years then consider letting them drive your S




Two weeks and counting. I just hope the clutch lasts another couple of weeks.