OK. Don't laugh. Check out this blurb from "The Real JDM":

Even in the case of simply installing a set of front canards, performance gains can be quite significant. Garage Defend produces a set of twin carbon canards they call Stingray. When tested on the Central Circuit in the wet with a mildly tuned Honda S2000, installation of the Stingray canards alone resulted in a lap time reduction from 1:51.74 to 1:50.40. This can be directly attributed to the increased downforce over the front wheels, which in turn reduced understeer while improving turn in grip into corners.

Of course, complicating matters is that "The Real JDM" articles in Modified magazine are written by the guy who runs Bulletproof.

Still, if it improves lap times, can it really be called "Rice"?

 

That's one ugly POS! Haha. A lot of "performance" products can be termed rice. Have a bunch of guys with no taste stick it on their car and it's over.

 

And this brings up another point. Like it or not, aerodynamic aids need to be relatively large to be effective.

That little "flip-up" factory spoiler on your trunk may look reserved, "clean", and "non-ricey", but it's actually useless and just generates drag for no purpose.

On the other hand, a large high mounted wing (high enough to be out of the turbulence coming off your roof) actually DOES something. But such aero aids are widely considered "Ricey". I mean, look at the wing that the guy over at Maxrev.net uses to win time attacks. If I mounted that on my car tomorrow and posted a pic up here, everyone would instantly chastise me for being a Ricer.

So, I ask you. What's "Rice"? Something Big and Effective. or something Clean but Useless.

Guys, we need to rethink this IMHO...

 

OK, but are the high noses on F1 cars attractive? No, but it works.

I thought that the S2000 was all about form following function. It seems like we're all becoming effete snobs about what goes on the car.

This car was meant to go fast under track conditions. Many compromises were made in the design to achieve this. It's a really shitty boulevard cruiser as a result.

So why not try to optimize this car for its intended mission? You ask me, if it makes the car faster around a track, it CANNOT be "Rice".

Just my .02...

 

That's the wing on the S2000 that won the Redline Time Attack for Modified RWD.

Pretty ricey, eh? Yeah, but he took home the trophy.

 

The thing that makes a lot of parts become "rice" is that people with civic dx's start putting these parts on their cars when the parts were meant for track use on cars that are track worthy.
I huge wind probably would benefit our cars at high speeds, but all the civic dx's out there have ruined the look by using these parts on their cars.
Just like a monster tach would probably benefit someone that actually races their car at the drag strip running 1/8 or 1/4 miles all the time.
The problem is every civic and celica on the road has this huge tach sitting on their dash so when people see them now they equate this to "rice"

 

Exactly. Which is why I'm saying that those same parts which, if put on a Camry, would be total Rice -- are instead pretty appropriate for an S2000.

I mean, the car NEEDS some downforce at high speed (like most track cars) b/c it's set up to be a bit, shall we say, "responsive" at low speed. You can't have stability and responsiveness out of a suspension all at the same time. But you can set up the car to change direction quickly at low speed, and let the aero aids take care of the stability at high speeds.

 

I am still of the opinion that the driver is usually the weakest link. I will continue to work on my driving before getting outrageous with mods to boost performance.

If those front wings are truly functional, I will not knock you for choosing to use them. They are ugly. Too ugly for me at any performance gain. But, I would much rather see someone with an ugly yet functional mod on their car rather than something stupid.

They might not be as ugly if you had a Berlina Black and painted them to match. I'm simply thinking aesthetic damage control there though.

 

I like them to be honost. If I had an AP1 I would already own them . Ya everyone on S2ki would hate and call it ricey and hate on it. Who cares what other people think about my car? No matter what you do some on this board will hate it and some may like it... In the end its your car and you should do what you want. Who cares if its rice or not???

If you do get them I would recomend a wing. If it creates as much downforce as the article says it could lead to more drastic oversteer (depending on suspension/tire settings). Just a thought

 

"Keep it clean and nix the wing" (Longfellow)

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