suspension...
 

quick question.

i wanna drop the car.. just to even out wheel gap. maybe 1.5"

whats the best solution, that WILL NOT compromise ride quality, or handling?

how much are you willing to spend?

:iagree: first question you should ask yourself before your willing to do anything to your car

cheaper is better bc it saves money for go-fast goodies.

cheap + suspension don't go well together. The least inexpensive setup that I would ever recommend would be a ground control coilover setup on koni yellows. This will run you around $1000. This isn't that much when you consider you could easily spend $10k on a coilover setup

There is no suspension set up that will lower the car and provide stock handling and stock ride quality. Period.

With 1.5" drop you will be scraping the front of the car often and you will be scraping the inside of your fender wells with the front tires. If this doesn't bother you, go for it. I personally think it sucks.

The Koni/ground control setup is probably the best for the money but I would only do a drop of .75" personally.

I had koni's and they have less compression dampening than stock. This means on the big hits the front of the car would often scrape. I dont know, maybe the stiffer ground control springs would help this.

The KW3 uses 515 lb/in front and rear, If I was going Koni and GC's I think I'd start there, 500 lbs/in front and back.

"I had koni's and they have less compression dampening than stock. This means on the big hits the front of the car would often scrape. I dont know, maybe the stiffer ground control springs would help this.".

You had them cranked all the way stiff?

When lowering what other issues arise? I saw comments about putting spacers on the rear driveshafts.

lowered roll center, increased bumpsteer.. the fixes out for these are more like a band-aid. the rear axle spacers are meant to restore the horizontal axel geometry to stock and remove stress on the CV, bushings, axels, etc. They arn't worth the money IMO.. this will be my stance until someone thats lowered can empirically prove something failed because the axles were stressed.

my whole worry is bounciness. scraping is going to happen no matter what.

i dont want to be bouncing all over the place
i had omnipower coilovers o my del sol, and it was STIFF.

Dont listen to them. im lowered on neuspeed springs on stock shocks. i canyon and tracked the car. lowered on 18'' volks. no problems at all. same as stock feel, just lower.

PS. they will be for sale soon :)

I could not live with a 1-1/2 inch drop, given the conditions I have to contend with, and not having gone there I can't offer any solid advice (solid = based on actual experience). At one inch there aren't any handling issues that can't be addressed with alignment, and at least with Eibach Pro Kit springs over stock shocks there is no "bouncing," until you reach the limits of suspension travel (which is of course reduced once the car is lowered).

You will be increasing bump and roll steer, but it isn't the as much of a problem as people who haven't dropped their car would have you believe. I've been autocrossing on a Pro Kit for two years and nobody beats my times unless they are running R compound or racing tires, so either I'm a good enough driver to more than make up for the handling problems caused by the lowering (highly unlikely) or the handling problems aren't as bad as those who havent't tried it like to think. The latter is far more likely. :hello:

I have Eibachs and Koni's also. The ride is better than stock and the 1" drop is perfect for me. I just placed these on a week ago so I can say for sure that the ride is smoother than stock.

Even with the 1" drop, you'll need to watch those steep driveways!

:thumbup: I've always gotten good results using Koni shocks.

Did you have the car aligned after the drop? Have you had a chance to track or autocross the car with the new springs and shocks? It would be interesting to know how closely your experiences parallel my own. :hello:

No I don't autocross or track and I'm waiting for my new tires/wheels to come before the alignment. (hopefully another two weeks) I love to drive the twisties the more narley the better. After the alignment, I'll be in the hills testing the new goodies. :D

[QUOTE=s2kheat,Jun 30 2006, 10:24 PM]No I don't autocross or track and I'm waiting for my new tires/wheels to come before the alignment.