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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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I've been thinking about getting some tie bars or sway bars for the S. What is the difference between the two? Will it give me any noticeable gain on lateral grip/skid pad ?

Any recommendations as to which kind to get? I've been looking at Neuspeed.

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Ray
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Not sure what a Tie bar is, probably a frame stiffener of sorts.

A sway bar (really a anti-sway or anti roll bar) can have a signficant effect on the handling of your car. You can use a bar to adjust the balance.

Most of the road racing and auto-cross folks use a heavier front bar.

A stiffer front bar will take some grip from the front and transfer it to the rear giving you more traction in a corner and allowing more power to be used.

Its a little more complicated than that, I suggest you understand why your would want to change something before you do it. IE does you car over steer and spin out a lot? or does it push or understeer in a corner?

George

ps I have the Comptech Adj Front Bar. Stock rear.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Thank you for the answer. I agree that I should understand what it does and what I would like for my car to do before I do anything. That is why I am asking here first.

I'm interested in the concept you mentioned about being able to put more power down through turns, one of my concnerns is that I've heard complaints of severe oversteer with some of these set ups. Is this just the nature of the beast?
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Stw000' date='Feb 16 2005, 05:16 PM
Thank you for the answer. I agree that I should understand what it does and what I would like for my car to do before I do anything. That is why I am asking here first.

I'm interested in the concept you mentioned about being able to put more power down through turns, one of my concnerns is that I've heard complaints of severe oversteer with some of these set ups. Is this just the nature of the beast?
The car is very neutral from the Factory, meaning you can control the oversteer/understeer with just your right foot.

A lot of people seem to have problems with this and tend to spin out a lot. I have a heavy foot and knew I was going to take the car on the racetrack. So I put a much heavier bar on the front of the car, this can make the car understeer but also makes it much more predictable for me. I use wider race rubber now to bring the steering back.

I have tried a Mugen heavy rear bar and found that the car was quicker to respond to steering inputs but would break loose at any aggressive throttle application.

I would recommend a heavier front bar and a stock rear bar. A lot of the road racing folks are even removing the rear bar altogether

Years ago I did the opposite to my 92 Civic, stock it would plow and understeer horribly. So I put a honking rear bar and left the front stock. For a FWD it was pretty dialed.
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