Sympathy
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From: Conway
Paul,
We are sympathetic. I, along with many others I am sure, feel like we know you after having the pleasure of reading your posts for more than a year on S2K bulletin boards.
Glad you made it through unscathed and I hope you get it fixed as good as new and back on the road soon.
We are sympathetic. I, along with many others I am sure, feel like we know you after having the pleasure of reading your posts for more than a year on S2K bulletin boards.
Glad you made it through unscathed and I hope you get it fixed as good as new and back on the road soon.
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From: Del Boca Vista
S2K-F8,
Sherwood's sales guys didn't really blow me away, either, but I got the car for MSRP. The Honda tech for S2000's is pretty good, but tyhe repairs this time around are going to be done by their body shop guys... it scares me that they also service gmc's and pontiacs (aaakkkk!).
As for the stereo stuff, I only changed out speakers so far. I wanted to see YOUR system!
I like the way you had things laid out and I also think Hesel's putting together an interesting package. I'll tackle this once I see which way seems to work best...
Sherwood's sales guys didn't really blow me away, either, but I got the car for MSRP. The Honda tech for S2000's is pretty good, but tyhe repairs this time around are going to be done by their body shop guys... it scares me that they also service gmc's and pontiacs (aaakkkk!).
As for the stereo stuff, I only changed out speakers so far. I wanted to see YOUR system!
I like the way you had things laid out and I also think Hesel's putting together an interesting package. I'll tackle this once I see which way seems to work best...
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From: Mountain View
sorry to hear about your accident, i know how it feels!
it's been two weeks and i'm still waiting for a stinking cable reel to be shipped...the parts guy at fairfax honda says it's been ordered twice, is on national backorder and hasn't shipped, the service guys say it's already on its way...
anyone in northern virginia AVOID FAIRFAX HONDA SERVICE, especially the silver team with Ken Resalam. He told me my car would be ready last saturday, but i called on Sat. and he was out of town for the weekend!!!
it's been two weeks and i'm still waiting for a stinking cable reel to be shipped...the parts guy at fairfax honda says it's been ordered twice, is on national backorder and hasn't shipped, the service guys say it's already on its way...
anyone in northern virginia AVOID FAIRFAX HONDA SERVICE, especially the silver team with Ken Resalam. He told me my car would be ready last saturday, but i called on Sat. and he was out of town for the weekend!!!
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From: Davie, FL
To Paul and Hootsama - Heartfelt sympathies to both of you.
Hootsama - Winter in South Florida brings out the "driving dead"
. You made the correct choice in avoiding a collision. Repairing the suspension and wheel should return the car to like-new condition; it's a lot harder to do with body damage. I know it's small consolation, and I hope the repair is done quickly and to your satisfaction.
Hootsama - Winter in South Florida brings out the "driving dead"
. You made the correct choice in avoiding a collision. Repairing the suspension and wheel should return the car to like-new condition; it's a lot harder to do with body damage. I know it's small consolation, and I hope the repair is done quickly and to your satisfaction.
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From: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Hootsama and the rest of you, many thanks!
sorry about your accident too Hoots.
To answer a couple of questions, the final impact was across from my drivers side light, airbags did not activate, but spoke to my garage and they said they would have to be careful as the sensors were just hangin down as the bumper & offside light had been torn out leaving them exposed.
Initial work suggests: New O/S wing
New Bonnet
New O/S Light
New bumper / grille etc + a lotof painting,
I'll see if they can repair the scratches on the door that I already had, or was it them loose stones that got thrown about
Feel calm and relaxed, The S2000 is now just material to me, my first thought was for my wife and 3 month old baby back in the house.
My spin was no more than an 1/8th turn of the wheel, oversteer started and I immediately made the big mistake of dabbing the brakes, anti-lock doesn't work too well when your going sideways
Drive carefully, I'm borrowing a digital camera today and I'll see if I can get photos on here over the weekend.
Paul (Wifes company car driver for now).
sorry about your accident too Hoots.
To answer a couple of questions, the final impact was across from my drivers side light, airbags did not activate, but spoke to my garage and they said they would have to be careful as the sensors were just hangin down as the bumper & offside light had been torn out leaving them exposed.
Initial work suggests: New O/S wing
New Bonnet
New O/S Light
New bumper / grille etc + a lotof painting,
I'll see if they can repair the scratches on the door that I already had, or was it them loose stones that got thrown about
Feel calm and relaxed, The S2000 is now just material to me, my first thought was for my wife and 3 month old baby back in the house.
My spin was no more than an 1/8th turn of the wheel, oversteer started and I immediately made the big mistake of dabbing the brakes, anti-lock doesn't work too well when your going sideways
Drive carefully, I'm borrowing a digital camera today and I'll see if I can get photos on here over the weekend.
Paul (Wifes company car driver for now).
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From: Springfield
Well, don't think that you are the only one that had to make those choices.
Two months ago when I picked the car up in SA I had the extreme pleasure of trying to get my car washed at a local establishment. I got out of the car, told them what type of wash and they pulled it around.
Well, first near miss. The young man had just enough sense to stop before putting the car on the movable track. Luckly I saw him and it dawned on me that it was to low. Phew! Avoided purchasing a new spoiler. So they had to hand wash it.
Second near miss. When they finished they detailed the exterior with Armorall on the tires. Of course by this time it began to drizzle. The dude was nice and offered to put it under the awning until it stopped. I needed to go, so off into the wild blue younder. Second gear shift at 5600 rpm, wheels break loose, car swerves right, countersteer, BIG swerve left almost a 100 degreer hit the brakes counter steer and stop in the center turn lane. Lots of people staring and cussing.
Moral to the story; Cold tires, Armorall, damp street, BAD NEWS. God willing, I was lucky this time and I've been trained by one of the best schools in the nation for professional reasons. So even the best of us get caught out! My sympathys!! Hope they do a good repair for you!
[This message has been edited by Jeff (edited December 01, 2000).]
Two months ago when I picked the car up in SA I had the extreme pleasure of trying to get my car washed at a local establishment. I got out of the car, told them what type of wash and they pulled it around.
Well, first near miss. The young man had just enough sense to stop before putting the car on the movable track. Luckly I saw him and it dawned on me that it was to low. Phew! Avoided purchasing a new spoiler. So they had to hand wash it.
Second near miss. When they finished they detailed the exterior with Armorall on the tires. Of course by this time it began to drizzle. The dude was nice and offered to put it under the awning until it stopped. I needed to go, so off into the wild blue younder. Second gear shift at 5600 rpm, wheels break loose, car swerves right, countersteer, BIG swerve left almost a 100 degreer hit the brakes counter steer and stop in the center turn lane. Lots of people staring and cussing.
Moral to the story; Cold tires, Armorall, damp street, BAD NEWS. God willing, I was lucky this time and I've been trained by one of the best schools in the nation for professional reasons. So even the best of us get caught out! My sympathys!! Hope they do a good repair for you!
[This message has been edited by Jeff (edited December 01, 2000).]
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From: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Jeff, I understand now
Someone had put Armour-all on the road.
Having driven over the crash area twice now I can make the following observations:
1) Boy was I lucky it didn't spin out the other way over the embankment and down into a field.
2) Lucky I didn't hit the barriers.
3) Happy to be alive.
4) Driven at much higher speeds in conditions that were worse, but its now obvious to me that its safer driving in rain, snow or ice that you know about and thus cater for rather than assume the road all the way to work was bone dry!
I'll try to remember that in the future.
Took some pictures in the dark last night, but it will be Monday before I can get them on here.
How do I get them from my cc-mail onto here?.
Someone had put Armour-all on the road.
Having driven over the crash area twice now I can make the following observations:
1) Boy was I lucky it didn't spin out the other way over the embankment and down into a field.
2) Lucky I didn't hit the barriers.
3) Happy to be alive.
4) Driven at much higher speeds in conditions that were worse, but its now obvious to me that its safer driving in rain, snow or ice that you know about and thus cater for rather than assume the road all the way to work was bone dry!
I'll try to remember that in the future.
Took some pictures in the dark last night, but it will be Monday before I can get them on here.
How do I get them from my cc-mail onto here?.
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From: Theale
Paul
Deepest sympathy... I know *exactly* how you feel
9 days after picking up my wife's S2000, I was driving (with her in the passenger seat) in some moderate rain, roads wet, visibility not great.
We came onto a roundabout (a rotary to our friends in the US who have such things in their states, and on the exit into a 2 lane dual carriageway, the car started to break away to the right.
I thought it was just a little oversteer, so applied a touch more power and steered into the skid.
BIG MISTAKE.
The theory of applying more power presumably only works when there's some traction to be had... all it did for me was twitch the back end to the other side, and the car started a sideways slide up onto the kerb and hit a post on the front passenger side wing.
Total damage: new door skin, new door sill (it was totally caved in by the high kerb), touched up nose/bumper (scraped underneath), new front wing.
If it's any comfort to you Paul, when the car came back it was (more or less) good as new. I had to get them to adjust the steering and tweak the front wing which had left a noticeable panel gap by the front light, but there have been no problems with the fit inside.
I suppose I'm glad this happened to me so early on in the ownership... it would have scared the life out me to think how many times I *might* have ended up in a hedge when driving on a wet road.
Now when I pull out of my drive in the wet, it's almost immediately a shift up into 2nd, and I try and stay off the throttle until the car is pointing in a straight line
cheers
Ewan
Deepest sympathy... I know *exactly* how you feel
9 days after picking up my wife's S2000, I was driving (with her in the passenger seat) in some moderate rain, roads wet, visibility not great.
We came onto a roundabout (a rotary to our friends in the US who have such things in their states
, and on the exit into a 2 lane dual carriageway, the car started to break away to the right.I thought it was just a little oversteer, so applied a touch more power and steered into the skid.
BIG MISTAKE.
The theory of applying more power presumably only works when there's some traction to be had... all it did for me was twitch the back end to the other side, and the car started a sideways slide up onto the kerb and hit a post on the front passenger side wing.
Total damage: new door skin, new door sill (it was totally caved in by the high kerb), touched up nose/bumper (scraped underneath), new front wing.
If it's any comfort to you Paul, when the car came back it was (more or less) good as new. I had to get them to adjust the steering and tweak the front wing which had left a noticeable panel gap by the front light, but there have been no problems with the fit inside.
I suppose I'm glad this happened to me so early on in the ownership... it would have scared the life out me to think how many times I *might* have ended up in a hedge when driving on a wet road.
Now when I pull out of my drive in the wet, it's almost immediately a shift up into 2nd, and I try and stay off the throttle until the car is pointing in a straight line
cheers
Ewan