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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 03:43 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by EFFECT
[B]Ok both Tein (RA) and Buddy Club racing dampners come with the same spring rates (10k).. And Im pretty sure they both have solid pillow ball mounts on top, not adjustable. Buddy club is 15 way adjustable and Tein is 16 way adjustable. Tein is aluminum and Buddy Club's are not. Buddy Clubs use a larger piston then the Tein and have excellent dampning.. (turning up the buddy clubs is about the equavilant of running a 14k spring, not sure on the Teins) Buddy clubs have adjustable shock bodies, and you can also adjust preload, while you can not do this weith Teins, you can just adjust height, but at the cost of travel, though the Tein shock bodies are about an inch shorter then stock.

I had the Tein's and they are an awesome setup, even though I had them set low I never had a problem with bottoming out on them and they were great on the street as well as the track. I loved em, But that said, If I were to do it again I would probably get the buddy clubs, because I believe they have greater dampening capabilities then the Tein, plus they are adjustable for height and preload. they may be heavier and uglier
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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by 4IGS2000


Well said....
The Buddy Club is adjustable..
You've shown us a picture of an adjustable camber plate on a strut application... how exactly is this supposed to be showing some kind of adjustment that is applicable to an S2000?

This thread is like the blind leading the blind...

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15-way vs 16-way adjustable? who cares... would someone like to tell me why they think this is an important distiction? Are they single adjustable, double adjustable, triple adjustable? Do you know the difference? Adjustable preload? Do you know what preload is? Do you know why someone would want to adjust the preload? What about gas pressure? Is that adjustable? What is the advantage/drawback of a larger piston?

If you cant answer those questions... or dont know the significance of those questions then I dont think you should be reccomending one shock over another to anybody.

My Koni 28s are only 8-way adjustable and have steel bodies... I guess they must suck... heh.
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My advice to the first poster is to first tell us what you expect new "coilovers" to do for you?

Do you just want your car to be lower? Then I'd reccomend just getting some new springs or some new springs and some adjustable perches (a la Comptech, Ground Control, etc...)

You want something that's going to look cool? Then get whatever comes annodized in your favorite color...

You want something that's going to perform better on the street? Well... what excactly are the qualties your looking for that the stock system doesnt do for you?...

You want something thats going to perform better on the track? Then I'd reccomend something you can get locally from a race-shop that can give you *exactly* what you want and make your setup perform *exactly* the way you want it to... and who can help you do that even if you're not sure how to get there. I'd reccomend finding your local builder of Penske, JRZ, Koni, Moton, or Bilstien shocks. Depending on where you live, I can reccomend such a place. You'll spend the same amount of money as you would on Tien or Buddyclub and probably end up with something better for your purposes.

I hope I dont come across as being too snotty about this (just a little snotty ).... I just think a lot of people spend a lot of money on shocks and have no idea what they're actually getting for their money or whats more, what they *could* be getting.

cheers,
jason keeney
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:25 AM
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You BIG snot!
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:32 AM
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j2k - I agree. Thanks for a little experienced advice in this thread filled with internet chatter. Nothing is more annoying than a sponsor trying to push a product with mis-information. Especially, when it comes to knocking other products when he/she is talking out of their ass. BTW, I find the adjustability of my TEIN RA dampers to be quite adequate.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:17 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by j2k
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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Thank u guys for all your input. Still, I haven't made my choice
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Speedracer
[B]Thank u guys for all your input.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 09:37 AM
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Good luck.
Thanx
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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You tell me that your Tein RA has a 46 MM Piston.. as does the Buddy Club..
Does your Tein have adjustable lower perch Dampering>?> that allows spring travel to remain the same no matter how much you slam the car..
Buddy Club Does
Does the Teins have Forged Perches ?
Buddy has that standard

See i have no problem backing Tein Suspension.. but we two of my friends blew their shocks.. i would have a problem saying Tein are the best coilover system yet...

You can say Tein are the best.. that is a personal opinion..
If you want to pay for for Tein RA setup... which is similar if not less than a buddy Club race suspension thats fine..
Just trying to relate the overall best suspension kit for the S2000.. Even people with the Function B6 Zeals.. have stated that the buddy club suspension is an around better kit than Zeal.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 05:17 PM
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Has anyone here even considered that the 10K spring applcation will give you EXTREMELY poor street performance??

You will be bouncing off every single bump. Its a pity that ppl don't seem to understand that if you going around a corner which is NOT flat, high spring rates are quite quite counterproductive.

You could have custom valved Konis for far far less than Tein or Buddy club. They are also rebuildable, and have continous rebound/damping adjustment.
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