These are the only tires that come in both 225/40/18 and 255/35/18. Does anyone have experience with them?

Toyo Proxes T1-S
Nitto NT-555
Dunlop Sport 9000
Kumho Ecsta Supra 712

 

AaronS2K gave the toyo's the thumbs up in another thread I started. That is what I am getting, but I won't have them until next week (I hope!). I can give you first impressions if you are going to wait that long before buying.

I have talked to someone locally that considers the toyo's to be in the same class as the s-02s and michelin pilot sports. He has also used them and likes them (he is not an S2K owner, though).

 

JiggaTaOG,

Go for the T1-S. I have been looking around for a better tire...but no luck yet.

One of the factors I look for in a tire is weight.

The T1-S are light wieght compared to other brands.

255/35/18

T1-S = 23.8 lbs.
Supra 712 = 28-29 lbs. (I returned these after I weighed these at home)
S02-Pole Position = 28
Sport 9000 = 24.8

 

Interesting observation and it tracks well with comments by others I have encountered.

A couple of posts claimed that the T1

 

Have the Nitto NT555's now.
Tread life is much better than the P-Zero's(Rosso)I had (also available in the sizes you specified).

Grip is good, but they get noisy.
When heated up, they are real noisy.

If you want long tread life and a lower price, go for it.
If you want suporior handling, and a nice smooth ride, look elsewhere.

 

I have the DUnlop

 

Some folks like the T1-S and some don't. I have heard people describe them as inferior to their predecessors in terms of dry handling. Sort of like the Dunlop 8000 versus 9000. The 9000 gives up a bit in the dry to gain a bit in the wet. Which is great if that is what you want but stinks other wise. They have a much higher treadwear rating than many competitive tires and are supposed to be loud under hard cornering. Here are some comments from some street touring autocrossers in today's emails - Stan.
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..>>>I ran both tires on my Subaru. The T1-s was an OK tire but made a whole lot of noise on the course. It was constantly howling. They lasted quit a while though. My AVSi's were grippier, and made less noise. But they wore out very fast. I autocrossed on them for about 10 events and they were toast.<<<

>>>I disliked them enough to take Toyo up on its 500-mile money-back offer,
although the tire distributor has lost all record of the tires, so I'm out
$600 for tires I ran two autocrosses with. I had 215/40ZR16 tires on 16 x 7
rims. I believe David Benson wore out a set on his Impreza. From what I remember,
he didn't like them either, although they'd be a great "raining cats & dogs"
rain tire, the tread being mostly voids. How well they're going to work on the upcoming Speedvision World Cup cars is a great question.<<<

David Avard
'90 Mazda Protege

> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:50:27 -0500
> From: Cris Thomas <thomas_cris@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Toyo Proxes T1-s
>
>Does anyone have any experiance with the Toyo Proxes T1-s? Any idea how
>they compare to the Yokahama AVSi?
>
>The Toyo has almost the perfect size for my aplication but I am worried
>about the 280 UTQG rating.
>
>Comments?
>
>- Cris Thomas
>95 Saturn SC2



[Edited by E30M3 on 02-07-2001 at 02:13 PM]

 

Anyone try the BF Goodrich G-Force T/A KD ? I have four coming in for Friday... Just curious.

Thanks.

 

just want to calibrate the posts I am reading:

most of the replies to JiggaTaOG's original post seem to come in the context of using the tires in competition, which is perhaps what JiggaTaOG will be doing.

I have already committed to buying the toyos, but am still interested in other people's impressions. Unfortunately, I will probably not have the time to get into any kind of sanctioned competitions any time soon. Would anybody's comments be different if we were only talking about street use?