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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CKit,Jan 10 2011, 12:59 PM
You can't be lazy or inattentive with these cars. So whether that means looking at the forecast early, getting proper tires, or having the driving skill to know that "gunning it" is reserved for good weather and properly safe track / autocross events...

If you "react to" instead of "plan ahead," you're going to have a very stormy relationship with the car.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FluKy15,Jan 10 2011, 02:46 PM
I have done that before. Many times actually.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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might want to check your alignment, particularly the toe settings, other than that respect the driving conditions and you might find things to be pretty good.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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I love the S2K, but I do admit they are horrible in cold icy weather. They are rear wheels drive with high revving engine and extremely light in weight. So even when you are in 1st gear, you will spin out as you applied the gas. I live in NY so I am use to driving in the snow, but I will never drive my S2K during winter. My advice, just get a beater car for daily driving. When spring and summer gets here, then set your S2K loose.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Let me knock on wood here before my comment, but prior to getting the S2k, I had only driven FWD cars. From the drive from Tenn back to Virignia, I had no problems getting acclimated to RWD. I have a civic for DD, but I am still driving the S2k during this winter, with Starspecs to boot. Sure, I can spin out if I really tried, but if you are alert and careful there should be no issues.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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Tires, tires, tires.

I hate when I see people talking about how bad these cars are in cold weather when the single factor with this and any other car's performance is the tires. These cars are perfectly fine to drive in the winter assuming you know how cars and weather work and you invest in a set of winter tires. I drove an LS1 car through four winters without issue and after only half a winter in the S2000 I can tell you it's just that much better--50/50 weight distribution and very little low-end torque meaning if you spin out you're doing it wrong.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 05:11 AM
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Good stuff
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sfedai0,Jan 10 2011, 08:28 PM
Let me knock on wood here before my comment, but prior to getting the S2k, I had only driven FWD cars. From the drive from Tenn back to Virignia, I had no problems getting acclimated to RWD. I have a civic for DD, but I am still driving the S2k during this winter, with Starspecs to boot. Sure, I can spin out if I really tried, but if you are alert and careful there should be no issues.
You better find a BIG block of wood, my friend.

For things like on ramps and hills, no amount of "being careful" will help you if you don't have traction. When you get to the point that the slope of the incline / decline overcomes your available traction, you're hosed.

People need to get real about what a driver can and can't do. Especially if there are elevation changes, available traction is king. You might eek by in the dry and the cold on summer tires, but decrease the traction a little bit more with a hint of precipation and now you have no margin for error (or in some cases a negative margin for error).

I watched a clip on weather.com where some driver in a CRV comes barreling over a crest of a snowy hill, loses control, spins and almost takes out the cop at the bottom of the hill.

When the cop interviewed her she said, "There was nothing I could do, I touched the brakes and it spun."

My immediate thought was, "Of course there was nothing you could do AFTER you made the initial error. If you had slowed down BEFORE getting to the downhill portion, you would have had a chance. Once you're already at the limit of grip and gravity is accelerating you further... you don't even have a chance at slowing down without losing control."

But in her head, there wasn't anything she could have done. Which means she will still continue to barrel over hills with no safety margin. And she'll blame it on the weather.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sfedai0,Jan 10 2011, 11:28 PM
Let me knock on wood here before my comment, but prior to getting the S2k, I had only driven FWD cars. From the drive from Tenn back to Virignia, I had no problems getting acclimated to RWD. I have a civic for DD, but I am still driving the S2k during this winter, with Starspecs to boot. Sure, I can spin out if I really tried, but if you are alert and careful there should be no issues.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:29 AM
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