Truth to the XBRACE rumor?
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http://forums.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.p...ighlight=xbrace
It was actually 0.025" to 0.070". Pretty small. You'll have to ask Utah about the details, but he also mentioned not having a reference point sensor - I take it that results in reduced accuracy, but I will respectfully defer to his expertise in positional measurement systems.
A x-brace isn't going to make your car any less stiff, but if you tell me your ass can feel 0.025" deflection....well, let's just say I work with some very fast drivers who's skills and ability to read a car amaze me and I don't think they can tell either.
UL
It was actually 0.025" to 0.070". Pretty small. You'll have to ask Utah about the details, but he also mentioned not having a reference point sensor - I take it that results in reduced accuracy, but I will respectfully defer to his expertise in positional measurement systems.
A x-brace isn't going to make your car any less stiff, but if you tell me your ass can feel 0.025" deflection....well, let's just say I work with some very fast drivers who's skills and ability to read a car amaze me and I don't think they can tell either.
UL
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Heh that's quite a difference...a maximum improvent of 2 1/2 to 7/100th's of an inch. That was the measured deflection in the stock setup (with possibly faulty sensor placement). The X-brace test numbers were never published in that thread so there still is no empirical data.
In any case, I tend to agree with UL. You would need to have accelerometers in your ass to be able to detect that kind of a change.
In any case, I tend to agree with UL. You would need to have accelerometers in your ass to be able to detect that kind of a change.
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<checks ass for accelerometers>. I've driven my car with an x-brace for a couple of years now and it makes a marked improvement on the sort of road surfaces we have here. I have at times removed the x-brace and the car is simply not the same to drive without it.
There are always going to be two opposing camps on this issue (which is ok
). IMO, as an average road driver I can't see how anyone can *not* notice the difference in steering response, stability and driving feel.... even slightly. However I also respect the opinions of those who don't have accelerometers in their asses
This debate seems to spread almost virus-like throughout the board creating a sense of deja vu. Why doesn't someone just make a 'sticky' poll?
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I think when cornering hard there is no noticeable difference. Where I notice a difference is over uneven road surfaces, the car is much more solid in these situations... it flows as more "one piece"