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Understeer to neutral balance on pre-2004's?

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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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oversteer problems...try a 911 from the 80's
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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Spend a little extra and go for the 04!!!

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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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One problem I have noticed is that there is significant lift in the rear end at higher speeds (150kmh+) so for fast sweepers on the track the rear end gets quite agile and jumpy, especially over bumps.

Add a bit of rain and it can be quite an interesting experience.

Smooth driver inputs are key.

///Robin
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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good news -- I just save a ton of money just by switching to geico.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueDrezzer,Aug 24 2004, 08:57 AM
One problem I have noticed is that there is significant lift in the rear end at higher speeds (150kmh+) so for fast sweepers on the track the rear end gets quite agile and jumpy, especially over bumps.

Add a bit of rain and it can be quite an interesting experience.

Smooth driver inputs are key.

///Robin


Smooth driver inputs are key. That's why I won't let my GF drive my S.
--JD
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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The stories may be "overblown," but i think its good that they are. Young or new owners shouldn't be told that as long as you don't drive like a "jack ass" you will be fine because driving like a "jack ass" is subjective. Instead, they should be told the horror stories of oversteer so they don't end up being wrapped around a telephone pole or some sort. Better safe than sorry . With all that being said, just take it easy with your car until you feel comfortable and build up experience through time with your newly acquired rwd honda. Like I said, the stories may be overblown, but i find that the S2000 is very twitchy compared to other rwd cars i've driven.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jguerdat,Aug 24 2004, 03:55 AM
Don't drive like a nimrod and you'll be very pleased with the handling.


I haven't heard anyone use the word nimrod in a while

I am very pleased with the handling of my S. If I come into a slow corner a little bit hot, give JUST enough throttle to balance the car, it will understeer slightly unless I come in hot, crank the wheel as far as I can and NAIL the throttle, then it will oversteer. As far as pushing the limits at high speed, I never test the lateral grip capacity of my S on a public road. I did once test the lateral grip capability on a racetrack and the back end started to come around big time at about 60-65 mph. I turned toward the opposite lock like yesterday, the car stopped rotating resulting in a massive four wheel drift and came to a halt on the curb (flat)on the outside.

If you don't try to drive this car like Mario Andretti or Parnelli Jones, you will be just fine. I will not hesitate to warn you about DEEP standing water with OEM S-02's. If you try to go to fast in deep standing water with the S-02's, you will get bit, no joke. This car likes to be driven fast in the dry and fast in the wet. (as long as water is not standing) Just use common sense and concentrate on being smooth.

I hope you buy a S2K
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by StinkyTofu,Aug 24 2004, 04:28 PM
Like I said, the stories may be overblown, but i find that the S2000 is very twitchy compared to other rwd cars i've driven.
I think the reason you find it twitchy is due to the neutral setup of the '00-03 ('04 is tuned to understeer). Virtually all other cars have understeer dialed in from the factory to help keep folks from getting over their heads. You can do this yourself by going with the '04 specs from front camber - 0 degrees...
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 04:48 AM
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I wonder if owners of the Porsche GT3 are having a similar conversation right now.....
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 05:37 AM
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I have noticed is that there is significant lift in the rear end at higher speeds (150kmh+)
This was my experience also.....Not any more....

For me, 285s eliminate off/on throttle oversteer and drive a mild controllable push at high speeds.
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