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Originally Posted by 530s2k,Nov 2 2006, 10:48 AM
Because this is where it begins. You think there's always going to be a button?
You can learn your limits on a track or autocross, where the button will do you no good. Learning your limits WITH VSA just means you're dependant on it to be saving you from making a mistake- to properly learn you need to make mistakes.
Comparing it to training wheels is quite a stretch. Balance is a slightly different force to reckon with. Try riding a motorcycle, cars are quite two-dimensional in comparison. Same thing though, you don't buy an R1 or Hayabusa and put VSA on it so you can learn to ride. You buy a 250 because you're going to drop it and make mistakes and that's how you learn.
The S2000 is NOT a good car to learn to drive in.
Originally Posted by 8kGoodENuff
I understand what you're saying, but some of us would like to learn our limits without the risk of ruining our investment or our lives or other's lives at that.
When a kid needs to learn how to ride his bike, are you saying that he/she shouldn't use training wheels? Just like as kids, when we learn our new equipment, we have the ability to take off our training wheels, as well as turn off our VSA.
When a kid needs to learn how to ride his bike, are you saying that he/she shouldn't use training wheels? Just like as kids, when we learn our new equipment, we have the ability to take off our training wheels, as well as turn off our VSA.
Comparing it to training wheels is quite a stretch. Balance is a slightly different force to reckon with. Try riding a motorcycle, cars are quite two-dimensional in comparison. Same thing though, you don't buy an R1 or Hayabusa and put VSA on it so you can learn to ride. You buy a 250 because you're going to drop it and make mistakes and that's how you learn.
The S2000 is NOT a good car to learn to drive in.
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From: sicklerville
Originally Posted by FISH22,Nov 1 2006, 07:15 PM
thanks for the back up guys 
Anyways I was just kidding about my comment but I realize how many others just jumped on the banwagon to flame me.
You know I've also noticed some administrators making IMATURE remarks, this just shows that some of you should not be carrying that ADMINISTRATOR title.
Some of you are just a bunch of
babies.......
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From: franklin
Originally Posted by 530s2k,Nov 2 2006, 09:55 PM
Right. And eventually they'll take the driver out of the equation because they make mistakes.
Air bags don't control how the car drives. This is passive.
Seat belt pretentioners don't control how the car drives. This is passive.
Crumple zones don't control how the car drives. This is passive.
ABS controls how the car STOPS. This is active.
VSA controls how the car starts, corners and stops. Kind've like... A driver? This is active.
If you wanted a safe car, you wouldn't buy an S2000. You'd buy a Mercedes or a Volvo or a BMW. They've got pre-braking, pre-slipping, pre-driving control. You get in and it whisks you away to where you're going in total safety, luxury, and control.
Air bags don't control how the car drives. This is passive.
Seat belt pretentioners don't control how the car drives. This is passive.
Crumple zones don't control how the car drives. This is passive.
ABS controls how the car STOPS. This is active.
VSA controls how the car starts, corners and stops. Kind've like... A driver? This is active.
If you wanted a safe car, you wouldn't buy an S2000. You'd buy a Mercedes or a Volvo or a BMW. They've got pre-braking, pre-slipping, pre-driving control. You get in and it whisks you away to where you're going in total safety, luxury, and control.
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From: Virgnia
Originally Posted by S2000380,Nov 2 2006, 01:47 PM
Wow man, congratulations you just earned the title "PENDEJO".
Anyways I was just kidding about my comment but I realize how many others just jumped on the banwagon to flame me.
You know I've also noticed some administrators making IMATURE remarks, this just shows that some of you should not be carrying that ADMINISTRATOR title.
Some of you are just a bunch of babies.......
Anyways I was just kidding about my comment but I realize how many others just jumped on the banwagon to flame me.
You know I've also noticed some administrators making IMATURE remarks, this just shows that some of you should not be carrying that ADMINISTRATOR title.
Some of you are just a bunch of
babies.......
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Originally Posted by S2000380,Nov 2 2006, 04:47 PM
Wow man, congratulations you just earned the title "PENDEJO".
Anyways I was just kidding about my comment but I realize how many others just jumped on the banwagon to flame me.
You know I've also noticed some administrators making IMATURE remarks, this just shows that some of you should not be carrying that ADMINISTRATOR title.
Some of you are just a bunch of babies.......
Anyways I was just kidding about my comment but I realize how many others just jumped on the banwagon to flame me.
You know I've also noticed some administrators making IMATURE remarks, this just shows that some of you should not be carrying that ADMINISTRATOR title.
Some of you are just a bunch of
babies.......idiot.
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From: franklin
Originally Posted by 530s2k,Nov 3 2006, 03:58 AM
SPORTS CAR, not SEDAN.