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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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This morning, I was driving on a perfectly straight onramp to get on the freeway (no traffic because it was 7:30am on a Saturday). It had been raining just a little bit earlier this morning. Anyway, I had it in 2nd, and I was going into VTEC while I was watching the RPM gauge move smoothly up past 6000. Just when VTEC kicked in, I noticed an abnormally large jump in RPMs -- it went from 6000 to 7500 almost immediately. I did not even have it at WOT, since it had been raining I was trying to be "careful".

So the question is -- is VTEC capable of busting my tires loose from the road at 2nd gear speeds, or was I just imagining it? My S only a month old, so my tires are brand new.

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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 06:17 AM
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Hey...

If the ground was a little wet then I would say yes is very possible. Pavement is a LOT more slick when there is just a little rain on it since all that comes off the pavement is all the oils and such that have been dumped there in time.

When I drove a B16 Powered CR-X Si and it was raining out, as soon as that hing hit VTEC, the tires would break loose so I don't think it is uncommon...

Just BE CAREFUL MAN!!!!!

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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 06:20 AM
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don't think you can get them loose stock just flooring the car but with the supercharger i am able to spin the tires in second just hitting the gas around the 6000 rpm spot when it is cold out. never remembering it happen when it was warm out.

VTEC is a nice feeling
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 06:52 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Honda-Freak BA
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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After having my S since August, I have mixed thoughts about vtec. It reminds me a bit of those old two-stroke motorcycles and "coming on the pipe." No horsepower, then lots of horsepower. It's not an issue on straightaways but if you're in a corner and all of a sudden you get that extra surge, things can happen. I love the kick vtec gives, but there are times I wish for a more gradual power band.

Yeah, yeah, I know it's there so I take it into account. I'll bet that the sudden vtec kick is responsible for a few accidents though.
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 07:07 AM
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Smokee- this is exactly why you enter a corner while already using the VTEC cam profile... you should be gearing down to the proper gear to have power for the corner

As long as you're smooth on the throttle and you don't hammer it until you're supposed to, there will be no issues!
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JNT Handyman
So the question is -- is VTEC capable of busting my tires loose from the road at 2nd gear speeds, or was I just imagining it?
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 07:29 AM
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the friction coefficient on average tires on a dry surfaces is .7, on regular wet it lowers to .4, if you take into consideration oil and other misc on the road surface, you get a number that is much lower. however on average, your traction is already cut in half without considering other outside variables.

on another note, i just wanted to say hi, i was browsing the forum for a while, and finally desided to register. great forum you got here.
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 07:30 AM
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Thanks and welcome aboard.
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by koala
Smokee- this is exactly why you enter a corner while already using the VTEC cam profile... you should be gearing down to the proper gear to have power for the corner

As long as you're smooth on the throttle and you don't hammer it until you're supposed to, there will be no issues!
I'm just driving around on the street, I'm rarely in, nor want to be in vtec when cornering. Maybe on a long smooth sweeper but that's about it.

If I want to slide the rear end around, I just get in my pickup.
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