What is the difference between drifting and sliding?

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Aug 20, 2002 | 06:12 PM

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Black Moon

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SEVNT4 is the winner with the only correct answer.

Aug 20, 2002 | 06:24 PM

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If you want to see what drifting means, just watch any WRC races then you'll see. Asphalt Drifting is not that popular here in the U.S., but it's extremelypopular in Japan. You'll see cars drifting in every Options videos. IMO I think extreme drifting is not to improve lap times, but a skillful yet stylish technique. Of course a slight drift is not uncommon anywhere, but if you are talking about serious angles then it won't be seen here. In Japan, they have drifting contest where they judge people by their drifts and not their laptime. If extreme drifting can improve laptime, then the next thing you'll see is a F1 drifting through a hairpin with the driver's head turned sideways.

here's a link to a thread, watch the video and you'll see some serious drifting.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?...&threadid=77188

Aug 20, 2002 | 06:32 PM

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COOL video but only some of it was drifting. Alot of it was sliding, skidding and shitty driving. Cool video though.

Aug 20, 2002 | 07:08 PM

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Cool video. The first car was good, the others, so so.

Black Moon, that image under your name is classic!

nevert00fast, totally agreed. An interesting thing I read from Alain Prost (former F1 driver) is that most F1 drivers consider Rally drivers to be some of the best in the world. Drifting is not too far from that in respect to technique except that in rallying, it's all about teamwork with the navigator and lightning quick reactions.

Aug 20, 2002 | 07:53 PM

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I'll chime in and maybe someone will either agree or disagree. If you disagree, tell your reason as to why I'm wrong

I don't think that technically you can drift around a curve. You "over-steer" around it. If you drift, your velocity in a certain displacement is constant. around a curve, your direction and speed change constantly.

I think of the car as being a piece of paper on a lake with the lake being the ground. Paper does not drift on water in curves, but in straight lines with a given input. In my opinion, what that supra was doing was changing from drifting to oversteer constantly.

Aug 20, 2002 | 10:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SEVNT4

LOL...if you say so...

http://www.seansa4page.com/resource/steering.html

Or, yet another source...

http://www.bodydynamicsracing.com/glossary.htm#F

Not to flame you dude but I think you're looking at definitions way too carefully.

For those of you who've seen The Big Lebowski = "Obviously, you're not a golfer."

Your first example does not actually contain the word "fishtail" anywhere. Your second example is from a local racing body fabricator in Denver, NC. I lookes at about 30 different sites that had racing definitions - none contained the word "fishtail". Then I went to Meriam-Webster's On-line. You can look it up yourself at http://www.m-w.com/

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Aug 21, 2002 | 05:49 AM

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There are 2 wheel drifts and 4 wheeel drifts. Steve Kinser performs 2 wheel drifts on Saturday nights and they are a form of oversteer. During a proper 4 wheel drift the entire car, front and back, is sliding around a corner.

drifting=a controled intentional slide
sliding= uncontroled unintentional drifting

slip angle=tread squirm

Aug 21, 2002 | 09:45 AM

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Aug 21, 2002 | 08:12 PM

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BDMonk, you're correct about "Your first example does not actually contain the word "fishtail" anywhere." That's because the topic was about drifting, not fishtailing. I added that in as a point of reference for those who weren't familiar with oversteer/understeer. Fishtailing of course can either be A: rear of car swinging back and forth uncontrollably or B: by it hanging out to one end usually controlled by steering input or power oversteer.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BDMonk
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Your first example does not actually contain the word "fishtail" anywhere.

Aug 23, 2002 | 01:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SEVNT4
BDMonk, you're correct about "Your first example does not actually contain the word "fishtail" anywhere." That's because the topic was about drifting, not fishtailing. I added that in as a point of reference for those who weren't familiar with oversteer/understeer. Fishtailing of course can either be A: rear of car swinging back and forth uncontrollably or B: by it hanging out to one end usually controlled by steering input or power oversteer.

Well . . . I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't believe that one word can accurately describe 2 very different concepts - or was ever intended to.

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