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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 09:45 AM
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I've used e6000 on two patches and they have held great for over a year. I put the top up and down sometimes 10 times a day so it's good glue.
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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 09:54 AM
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Did you sand or buff surfaces that were bonded? Did you use MEK or solvent to clean the surfaces? Last, where did you purchase the fabric in such small quantities? I presume it had a urethane coated side?
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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by qbnlykwhoa
I started to develop those spots above the shoulder area and light started seeping through on the passenger side so did a lot of research and tested a ton of different glues.
I bought some 1680D fabric and cut out test patches to glue together using various glues. I let them all dry overnight before attempting to pull them apart. All of them I was able to pull apart except for one.

[Permatex]

The fabric has pretty much bonded together and I was unable to separate the two pieces I glued. Make sure you glue the glossy coated side facing the roof.

I finally did the fix to the top and extended the patched past the bar so any edges wont catch.
They are very hard to spot and blend in very well with the top. They also feel and look very durable. Time will tell.

This is what mine came out like.

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You can use a shoe lace to hold the bar back while you glue them in place like so...

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Thanks! That's all the testing I didn't have time or materials to do. I think I'll take your advice and try Permatex on the next one.

Practical question: How did you get the adhesive all the way out to the edge without making a huge mess of it?
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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cosmomiller
Did you sand or buff surfaces that were bonded? Did you use MEK or solvent to clean the surfaces? Last, where did you purchase the fabric in such small quantities? I presume it had a urethane coated side?

I bought it on eBay. It came in a roll so I have some left over.
I cleaned the surface area with rubbing alcohol and let dry completely before applying the patch.
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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by P1h3r1e3d13
Originally Posted by qbnlykwhoa' timestamp='1427994447' post='23564308
I started to develop those spots above the shoulder area and light started seeping through on the passenger side so did a lot of research and tested a ton of different glues.
I bought some 1680D fabric and cut out test patches to glue together using various glues. I let them all dry overnight before attempting to pull them apart. All of them I was able to pull apart except for one.

[Permatex]

The fabric has pretty much bonded together and I was unable to separate the two pieces I glued. Make sure you glue the glossy coated side facing the roof.

I finally did the fix to the top and extended the patched past the bar so any edges wont catch.
They are very hard to spot and blend in very well with the top. They also feel and look very durable. Time will tell.

This is what mine came out like.

...

You can use a shoe lace to hold the bar back while you glue them in place like so...

...
Thanks! That's all the testing I didn't have time or materials to do. I think I'll take your advice and try Permatex on the next one.

Practical question: How did you get the adhesive all the way out to the edge without making a huge mess of it?

I placed a cardboard box on the floor of my garage and held down the patch while I covered the entire surface facing up.
Then when it was fully covered walked over to the car and applied. Some squeezes out to the sides but you can wipe it with your finger along the edge of the patch. I must of gone through like 30 latex gloves during the process lol...
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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 05:40 PM
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I sewed mine and used Black RTV silicone. The patches held up very well with my top going up and down daily.
I actually made a DIY guide. Check it out: https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/943...#entry22168982
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 12:37 AM
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I've tried the e6000 and it bonds really well. Using RTV silicone is a good method as well.
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 11:28 AM
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Bumping this guy because I'm curious: qbnlykwhoa, how's the adhesive holding up? I think I'm going to try and find some of that Permatex today and glue my patches on.
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by qbnlykwhoa
I started to develop those spots above the shoulder area and light started seeping through on the passenger side so did a lot of research and tested a ton of different glues.
I bought some 1680D fabric and cut out test patches to glue together using various glues. I let them all dry overnight before attempting to pull them apart. All of them I was able to pull apart except for one.



The fabric has pretty much bonded together and I was unable to separate the two pieces I glued. Make sure you glue the glossy coated side facing the roof.

I finally did the fix to the top and extended the patched past the bar so any edges wont catch.
They are very hard to spot and blend in very well with the top. They also feel and look very durable. Time will tell.

This is what mine came out like.




You can use a shoe lace to hold the bar back while you glue them in place like so...



worked great! i stiched the rips. applied this sealant to the top of the stich. i still need to do the patch on the bottom side(didnt have time as i was prepping for a rainy track day the following morning) will post picks when i get the patch on the bottomside to help support the stichs. i think the bottom patch will basically remove some of the strin on the thread from holding the hole shut. which was basically my problem the po had stiched and sealed the holes but with nothing on the bottom side the threads riped out over time
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 09:21 AM
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Thanks for bumping this scottdh20. I spread some of the Permatex RTV adhesive on the backs of my Black Hole patches that lost their adhesion and stuck them back in their original positions on the inside of the top. 24 hours later they were stuck. I mean, REALLY stuck. These things aren't coming off without taking the top material with them.

Overall, totally satisfied. In the colder weather the adhesive solidifies a tad, but that's fine.
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