S2000 Talk Discussions related to the S2000, its ownership and enthusiasm for it.

what road temp is too cold

Thread Tools
 
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 01:57 AM
  #1  
dyhppy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 5,749
Likes: 1
From: Santa Monica-SoCal
Default what road temp is too cold

if the outdoor air is cold, does it ever become dangerous to drive? no rain or snow, just cold road.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:46 AM
  #2  
jguerdat's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,491
Likes: 1
From: Rochester, NY
Default

Put the proper tires on the car and nothing is too cold. There's lots of us driving in very cold weather with no problems.

As for using UHP tires in the cold, the thing to remember is to slow down. Make smooth inputs - no hacking allowed. I haven't run them below 0F but have spent time well under freezing with no problems other than the need to drive appropriately. You can lose grip that much faster at low temps so you can't be aggressive. I compare the difference to be similar to driving on UHP tires and then switching to all-seasons. The A/S tires will generally work better at low temperatures so it would be worthwhile to investigate those. I happen to prefer the Pirelli P-Zero Nero A/S tires for low temps as well as snow although snow tires are obviously the best for snow traction...
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:53 AM
  #3  
brimstone's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
Default

Just for a simple answer, 8 degrees celcius is where it starts to become dangerous for OEM/performance/non-MS tires. It's the point at which oem/performance/non-ms tires begin to harden and thus loose grip.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 04:13 AM
  #4  
INDYMAC's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 4
From: Magnolia, TX
Default

I believe 40F is the lower limit thrown out there by the tire companies. Although driving carefully while temps are below 40F may seem to work most of the time, it is not safe. Emergencies require abrupt inputs sometimes (like stopping quickly). So you put yourself at a significant disadvantage with summer tires on your car when it's cold out, not to mention the person you are going to hit with your car.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 05:45 AM
  #5  
Chazmo's Avatar
Gold Member (Premium)
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 42,315
Likes: 45
From: Central Massachusetts
Default

Tires are definitely the issue, dyhppy. Stock S02s (and S03s) turn into bricks when temps drop into the 40s. Not sure about the RE050s, but likely the same thing.

With proper winter tires, you'll have no problems. However, be aware that the grip level on winter tires is less than the summer performance (stock) tires.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 07:22 AM
  #6  
DarkSigma's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
From: WecantevergobacktoArizona
Default

when I leave out for work in the morning, The coldest temps are like 33Fand the hottest to 100F and my commute is very short, but there is one winding road that I like to drive spiritedly on in the morning.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 07:26 AM
  #7  
vishnus11's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
Default

I daily drive my car and have had no problem with the RE050s when temps dip to even mid 20F. HOWEVER, my commute is only 5-7 miles per way, and I don't drive like my pants are on fire in these conditions. I felt the rear tires today after parking and they seemed fairly warm - the air temp today was around 30F. In conclusion, its doable at least over short distances. Be extremely cautious - the rear will break loose without a moments notice if you try to hustle the car through a corner.

And don't even THINK about driving it through the snow on the stock tires
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 09:35 AM
  #8  
cuonice's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,630
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by vishnus11,Jan 19 2007, 08:26 AM
I daily drive my car and have had no problem with the RE050s when temps dip to even mid 20F. HOWEVER, my commute is only 5-7 miles per way, and I don't drive like my pants are on fire in these conditions. I felt the rear tires today after parking and they seemed fairly warm - the air temp today was around 30F. In conclusion, its doable at least over short distances. Be extremely cautious - the rear will break loose without a moments notice if you try to hustle the car through a corner.

And don't even THINK about driving it through the snow on the stock tires
Top down this morning Vish?
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 09:47 AM
  #9  
Chazmo's Avatar
Gold Member (Premium)
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 42,315
Likes: 45
From: Central Massachusetts
Default

Originally Posted by DarkSigma,Jan 19 2007, 11:22 AM
Should I be driving aggressively when I leave out for work in the morning, The temps are like 33F and my commute is very short, but there is one winding road that I like to drive spiritedly on in the morning.

How long does it take for my tires to heat up?
So, you're suggesting driving aggressively to warm up the tires? I think that's what's known as a chicken-and-egg problem.

Just don't do it. If you get caught out in cold temps with your stockers, drive like your feet hands are feathers. Trying to warm up the tires by driving hard will put you in a ditch before you have the chance.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 11:57 AM
  #10  
Woodson's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,789
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by DarkSigma,Jan 19 2007, 09:22 AM
Should I be driving aggressively when I leave out for work in the morning, The temps are like 33F and my commute is very short, but there is one winding road that I like to drive spiritedly on in the morning.

How long does it take for my tires to heat up?
Don't do it.

In late fall a couple of years ago, before changing over to winter tires for the season, I took my car to a deserted parking lot for a little experiment. The temperature was around freezing. I drove around aggressively and intentionally ham-handedly and was very surprised (shocked even) at how little traction I had. I was sliding all over the place.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:58 PM.