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Old Dec 13, 2001 | 04:03 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ultimate lurker
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.... Oh, and BTW, this is the first RWD car I've owned in 10 years, and only my second overall.
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Old Dec 13, 2001 | 05:47 PM
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IMHO

I just bought the car and I can immediately notice that the car was spawned by Honda's heavenly hands to please both the guy/gal who drives like a normal every day conformist (with a few itches here and there) to the diehard who has raced cars on the track for decades and has professional driving skills. I believe this car can wow the socks off an everyday driver and still have the same impact on a race hardened road warrior. But with that ability comes compromise. This car definitely tends to weigh more toward the "knowledged driver". Granted there may be a "circumstance" and the s02s are not the best in heavy rain and dangerous in snow, but I think it is entirely unfair to blame just the tires. They are summer tires and they are designed to thoroughly grip dry and pleasant turf. Drive responsibly and you'll be safe.
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Old Dec 13, 2001 | 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by jschmidt
They may be the same compound as each other, I don't know. The information that they are not dual-compound (as are the regular S-02s) comes from Jim, the Tire Rack employee and moderator of the tire forum. Interesting question for further research, I think. Anybody know?
If by "regular SO-2s" you mean the SO-2 Pole Position (which came out after the S2000 had been on sale for a year or so), then I believe you are correct. But I think that the Honda OEM SO-2s are the same single compound as the original SO-2s (no longer sold) and the Porsche OEM SO-2s.

The point is that Honda didn't radically change everything about the tire, just the relative widths and different tread patterns.
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Old Dec 13, 2001 | 06:15 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Spa-MC
[B]... This car definitely tends to weigh more toward the "knowledged driver".
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Old Dec 13, 2001 | 08:32 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bieg
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Therein lies the point.
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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by Bieg
Can we end this topic now?
I, for one, would be happy to continue on without you if you'd like.

So where and when would you like to show me how "those that can" drive. Perhaps we could turn it into some kind of charity fundraiser. Maybe we could buy tire gauges for the indigent.
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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 02:53 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Strike
[B]What would you expect to happen when a well balanced RWD car goes around a corner too fast or in adverse conditions?
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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by jschmidt

So where and when would you like to show me how "those that can" drive. Perhaps we could turn it into some kind of charity fundraiser. Maybe we could buy tire gauges for the indigent.
What I said was "Just because you can't drive your S2000 with the S02s you should not take it out on those who can."

Where did you get the idea I was challenging you to a competition? You complained on how "undrivable" (a paraphrase) the stock S02s are and I said I and many others like them and have no problems.

Well since I have driven mine for over two years without spinning it off the road that makes me one of the people who can drive it on stock tires.

Can you say the same?

How about a reading comprehension competition?

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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by jschmidt
I'm surprised to hear you say this. Well balanced cars drift more frequently than they spin. They remain easily controllable and predictable. "Well balanced" means "well balanced between ends".

I, for one, would expect well balanced cars to be involved in a well balanced variety of accidents. The indication (and you can't call anecdotal information a fact) that our otherwise well balanced car doesn't is certainly worth talking about, IMHO. We shouldn't be afraid to talk about anything, should we?

You just don't get it do you. The nature of this type of car (and it has been explained so many times already) is that an inexperienced driver will spin it out when they drive it beyond their ability. It is totally predictible and anyone who UNDERSTANDS vehicle dynamics will tell you this is the type of accident to expect from this car in inexperienced hands.

The reason it happens to some and not to others can be chalked up to experience, talent and touch.

Is there anyone but YOU who does not understand this by now?
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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 06:15 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bieg
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You just don't get it do you.
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