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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rpg51
Junky seems to be saying the only proper inspection involves removing the retainers to look at the bottom. If I went to that extent, I would probably just change them to ap2.

I've inspected mine recently from the top. I will inspect them from the top periodically - maybe every 30K miles or so. My take is that as long as all looks well from the top, no observable issues or changes, and I have no incidents, then I'm good to go.

I recall Billman addressing this somewhere here. My memory is he favors leaving well enough alone with the ap1 retainers unless you can see something happening from the top. I can see both sides of the debate, but I'm not going to mess with mine unless something happens. I will do a VA and check them from the top fairly frequently. My general rule is that if it ain't broke, best not to fix it.
You likely won't see the cracks in the retainer from above if they develop underneath, but you will see the tell-tale sign of a sinking valve stem from above. A regular inspection every 30k should be safe, combine it with a valve adjustment to make it worthwhile.
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 08:20 PM
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Yes, VA and retainer inspection every 30K and, of course, no over revs. I look for valve tip sunken in a bit more than normal.
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 03:02 AM
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150k on original AP1 retainers here as well.
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 04:03 AM
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160k here, I was changing my valve stem seals none of them were cracked, was going to put them back on but one of the retainers got sent to the nether realm by the valve spring, so I just put in the AP2 ones I bought to replace the set if any were cracked.
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 12:13 PM
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I inspected them for sinking valve stems last valve adjustment, and will probably inspect every valve adjustment or anytime I have the valve cover off. I rarely even come close to redline in my car though lol.
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 02:10 PM
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Yeah I don’t come close to redline much either

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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 03:09 PM
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I didn't realize there was a misconception about this. I had 157k miles on my AP1 that suffered a few mechanical overrevs over about 10 track days and not a single intake retainer was cracked.
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 03:43 PM
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There is still some who think constant high reving can cause them to crack.
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bgoetz
There is still some who think constant high reving can cause them to crack.
that's correct, you can bounce off the rev limiter under acceleration all you want and it won't crack the retainers, it only happens under mechanical over-rev which happens on missed downshifts, and where revs start approaching 9700 rpms give or take est.
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bgoetz
Yeah I don’t come close to redline much either

https://youtu.be/wc0Fz5smOxo
2 things;

1) wow that corvette is loud

2 wow your forearms are RIPPED!

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