I use the R4 pads for both track and street. They dust real bad. I put that Honda lube/gooky stuff between the pads and the metal shim, so it only squeaks a teeny bit. Stopping power is awesome. Does eat the rotors a bit. But you can do some really high G braking manuevers with this setup......and you don't have to switch them out when you go to the track.

I use the ATE super blue, and alternate with the ATE Gold when flushing the fluid.

-Doug

 

Hmmm, I guess they do look an awful lot like wheelbarrow tires right about there.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sime
[B]I use the Porterfield R4S for track days and very spirited road driving. They have yet to fail me ever and for me, that is VERY impressive!

If I did more track days, I'd look to the R4 pads.

 

This thread is great - after my recent track event, I am convinced that one of the greatest improvements that can be made to the car (besides the driver! ) is through its braking system. The only thing I have done thus far is add the ATE Super Blue which did make a difference after I boiled the OWM fluid during a track event. Some thoughts:

- The OEM braking system is extremely good - but not good enough. I fear I have come to the point where I must modify it to keep the car safer at the limit.

- I am very disappointed with the state of brake duct/cooling systems that are out there. I don't want a one-off to be constructred. It would be great if we had some reasonable choice in terms of options.

- IPads: I don't want to go through the time/expense of swapping out pads between street & track. I also don't mind a lot of dusting, but am concerned about rotor wear. I will give the Porterfields a try.

- Rotors: I already needed to have my rotors re-ground once because I "glazed" them. I fear I did the same thing yesterday at the FOW Fall Event. I think upgraded rotors would also prove beneficial. Not sure what my options are.

- Brake lines: A good option, but doesn't strike me as a priority. What do you all think? What should I expect them to cost and what are my options?

Thanks!

 

Are you on Stock Pads?

 

Unfortunately, yes (therein lies the problem).....

They're relatively inexpensive so I haven't fretted about getting a new set now and then. I am sure that I will feel a measurably improvement in braking performance with upgraded pads. And having been in some Panther + equipped cars on the track my SOP assessment would concur.

 

Bingo ...... but I don't think you'll feel them to be "inexpensive" after going through a couple sets .

 

hey RT. after using my oem pads on a track day i have noticed they seem to deposit material onto the rotor much quicker now. It used to be that I could do many hard brakes and have no issues, but now i will get a vibration after a long slow stop where the brakes are depressed weakly, but on for a long time. One hard brake seems to clean it up, but they never used to do this. Does glazing a pad real good one day make behavior like this happen more often?

 

Dave Kennedy (davepk) the super charged S-2000 that was in Sport Compact Car in October , uses our Pinnacle braking System . The pads that Dave runs is our #3 Racing pad . What will this pad give you :

1 You can run pad on the street
2 It will NOT EAT ROTORS !!!!!!
3 It will work from ambient, and up to temperatures that your rotors glow red ( 1,200 degrees F )
4 It has consistent friction properties through its entire range!!!
5 This is a racing pad designed for racing , its rotor friendly properties make it usable on the street .

We now offer a upgraded two piece racing rotor for the stock S-2000 brake system .
Forged aluminum hat ( nickel plated)
Safety wired bolt set , with stainless steel bushings ( allows for expansion and reduce heat transfer to hat from rotor )
Curved vane , directional , heavy duty racing rotor that has been thermally treated .
Rotors are zinc plated and slotted .

We are also working with Hawk Performance to offer their complete line of pads to fit the S-2000 and Acura RSX . We should have them available by November .
We can offer almost any friction material for our Pinnacle Big Brake Kit at this time.

We will be doing a complete Brake install at Rick's Fall Colors event .

If you require any more information go to: http://www.ricks2k.com/products/brakes.html

We are going to be working on a brake duct kit soon . Dave is thinking about running his car in the Ultimate Track Challenge in April , and we want to optimize his system for full racing. Like our brake system this will be a kit designed for racing application ( we wish to optimize the brake cooling ) The kit will be a bolt on system , we will fabricate hub adapter , ducts and custom adapter to use existing cut outs in bumper , the kit will be designed to use the largest duct hose that will fit . You will be able to remove kit and install OEM dust shields , when you sell car . The only item that is not reversible will be the cut outs in the front bumper .

brad

 

Here's my two stock options:

after outgrowing the stock pads, I switched to Porterfield R4-S for track and street. I ran them for ~13,000 miles and 6 track days, the first four on OEM tires, the last two on Toyo RA-1s. I never had any problems with them (some have reported crumbling). They do squeak a bit and make a fair amount of dust. When I took them off, they still had some life left in them.

Now I'm running the BrakeMan #3 pads. I've had them on for ~5000 miles and 4 track days, all on the RA-1s. Like the R4-S, they work great on the track and street, with some squeaking, and about the same amount of dust, although a little easier to wash off. But I wore through the left fronts today.

So, did the BrakeMan #3s wear out a lot faster than the R4-S? Or am I just using my brakes a lot harder now?

Ted