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Caliper bracket mounting bolts: Need help on how to remove them

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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 07:18 PM
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Default Caliper bracket mounting bolts: Need help on how to remove them

I am changing my front rotors and thought I was home free after getting the disc retaining screws out using an impact wrench + heavy hammer, but now I can't get the 17mm caliper bracket mounting bolts loose. Any advice on how to loosen them?
(I had started with the screws because I thought that that would be the rate limiting step for do-it-yourself.)
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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Heat the bolts, or you can get some PB penetrating lubricant.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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The normal mounting torque for those bolts is only like 24 ft-lbs. They should come loose relatively easily. Make sure your using an open end wrench to hold the caliper pin when you turn the mounting bolt. You have to be careful not to damage the pin boot with the wrench. The last mechanic to do this may have used some locktite on the caliper mounting bolts ( I do, but the factory doesn't), or they may be locked in because of heat cycling. So, you may have to give them a sharp bump, rather then a gradual exertion of torque to get them to break away.

Good luck.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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I think he is talking about the two bolts that mount the caliper assembly to the wheel, not the pad retainer bolts.

I can't imagine a proper size 6 pt. 1/2" socket with a breaker bar wouldn't loosen it in a jiffy... I can usually break them loose with just an oversize box-end wrench.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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Thanks Gloffer, but these are not the caliper bolts for changing pads. They are the large 17mm bolts that hold the whole caliper assembly to the knuckle. The caliper assembly has to be removed to get the rotor off (which I have already gotten loose by removing the screws). That's where I am stuck. Anyone who removed the calipers for rotor change or powder coating with advice?
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by pfb
I think he is talking about the two bolts that mount the caliper assembly to the wheel, not the pad retainer bolts.

I can't imagine a proper size 6 pt. 1/2" socket with a breaker bar wouldn't loosen it in a jiffy... I can usually break them loose with just an oversize box-end wrench.
I tried a long box-end wrench, even with blows from a hammer and penetrating oil, with no success. Must be seized from all the overheating from track events. Other than the breaker bar, which I don't have, any other suggestions?
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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Put a piece of pipe over the box end wrench or standard 1/2" ratchet to increase leverage.

...or better yet, if you don't have the right tools, run down to sears and get a decent Craftsman 1/2" metric socket set. They are pretty inexpensive, making working on your car much more enjoyable, and in the long run will be much cheaper than screwing something up because you don't have the right tool for the job.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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Oops, sorry, mine came off without any trouble either when I replaced my rotors last month. Try some liquid wrench or this stuff called PB Blaster. If you can get one back in there you might try your impact wrench with the proper size socket on it. The torque spec on those bolts is like 80ft-lbs.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by pfb
Put a piece of pipe over the box end wrench or standard 1/2" ratchet to increase leverage.

...or better yet, if you don't have the right tools, run down to sears and get a decent Craftsman 1/2" metric socket set. They are pretty inexpensive, making working on your car much more enjoyable, and in the long run will be much cheaper than screwing something up because you don't have the right tool for the job.
I'll try the pipe over the long box-end wrench (Craftman btw), though there is not much room under the fender to allow much more leverage than the wrench itself. And I will also invest in a Craftsman 1/2" socket set in any case.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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Use a 1/2" tire arm about 18" long. It should just come right off. A good selection of the right tools make the job easier.
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