I've noticed at the track, especially if your car has close to oem suspension, you tend to lean to one side while your car is leaning to the opposite side. Now think instictive gear shift in your head is 3rd gear is just push up and 4th is just push down....well in that moment your "straight up" is now 1st gear and you see what I'm getting at. This situation may happen in other conditions as well.

 

then by this....it would eliminate a 3rd to 2nd...give and take.

i personally dont' think this affect everyone...maybe some.

 

Not if you have a harness you don't.

 

Mike is right. Even with just a G-Lock the OEM seats do a great job of keeping me in place, and as long as you turn your palm the right way and avoid grasping the shift knob you can't apply pressure in the wrong direction anyway.

You shouldn't be holding yourself in place with the shifter or steering wheel. Both hands (and both feet) need to be free to operate the controls, so the seats and belts have GOT to hold you in place, or you simply can't drive well.

But Mike, how many money shifts have we seen on a track or autocross course? I could be wrong, but it usually seems to involve someone who just uses the car for street duty, and isn't likely to have anything in the car to help hold them in place (other than those great OEM seats ). There may be some bad habits involved too, but I see people in cars leaning into turns all the time.

 

I always use AP2 retainers and keepers. In other words, I never want the car coming back

As far as missed shifts, here's a great piece of advice...don't deathgrip the shifter

 

I've done it.

Fortunately, I was short-shifting. Only hit, IIRC, 9700 RPM or so (datalogger). No damage.

This was, by the way, before I had harnesses. But harnesses weren't the issue. This was the third day of a three-day track weekend, and I was just tired.

 

That is a very good point!
In the UK we don't seem to have the same problem!
Our problems is wishbone adjuster corroding and seizing solid

 

What's a wishbone adjuster?

 

Adjusters for alignment castor, camber and toe.
Because of our climate loads of cars of all ages have this issue. Costing $1000 a corner to fix

 

have you checked the valve spring pressures, both installed, and open?
id like to know, cause the ap2 springs are a different part#, and colored. so if i was in there, and doing a customers retainers, as cheap as the springs are, id do them also. not only the possibilty of them being stronger, but i wanted to know if there was any height diff with those retainers.
lates. thanks for these posts. keep people aware. later dave