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Old May 16, 2016 | 04:05 PM
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So I have kind of a strange clutch issue. The clutch itself is OEM with an OEM pressure plate, not that old maybe 10,000 miles on it. The slave cylinder was also replaced at the same time, and the master cylinder was more recently replaced, so I think all the hydraulic stuff is good. I was experiencing some grinds on the 1-2 and 2-3 shift so I bled the slave for a long time. The grinds didn't really go away at first, but after driving for a few days the pedal got really firm and it appeared that all the free play in the rod and master cylinder had disappeared to the point that it felt as if the clutch was riding even with my foot off the pedal. So I adjusted the rod to get it back to normal and then a few days later it did it again, the free play disappeared and the pedal got firm at the top. So I adjusted again. Now the shifting is much smoother so was air getting worked out of the system each time? I had to adjust it again today just to get some preload off the master cylinder, maybe like half a turn on the rod. Why does this keep happening?
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Old May 16, 2016 | 07:25 PM
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I would be worried that your thrust bearings are wearing out. Is the engagement point different depending on whether you are pointed uphill or downhill?
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Old May 16, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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How many threads do you have visible on the clutch switch? We can compare.
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Old May 16, 2016 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by leyczo
I would be worried that your thrust bearings are wearing out. Is the engagement point different depending on whether you are pointed uphill or downhill?
Not that I can tell. It seems pretty consistent in the top half of the pedal stoke. I'll pay closer attention to it though.
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Old May 16, 2016 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by shind3
How many threads do you have visible on the clutch switch? We can compare.
Approximately 3 threads are exposed towards the pedal. The height of the pedal at rest is about 1/4" higher than the brake pedal.
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Old May 16, 2016 | 11:17 PM
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How many threads are supposed to be exposed on that cruise control switch?
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Old May 17, 2016 | 05:21 AM
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Not sure. Anyway, I'll continue with my hypothesis that some trapped air was working free. The drive to work this morning was really nice, the pedal felt great, and I haven't shifted this smoothly in a long time.

Edit: by shifting smoothly, I mean it finally feels like my clutch is fully disengaging which allows gear shifts without grinding.
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Old May 17, 2016 | 09:02 AM
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So the clutch was done like 10k miles ago, correct? By who? Are you sure they lubed everything that is supposed to get lubed?

I am wondering what if something like the clutch fork pivot is binding, and not always fully returning. This gives extra play at top of pedal, which you adjust out. Then later it works its way loose, and now you have too much preload, and have to adjust that out.

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Old May 17, 2016 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
So the clutch was done like 10k miles ago, correct? By who? Are you sure they lubed everything that is supposed to get lubed?

I am wondering what if something like the clutch fork pivot is binding, and not always fully returning. This gives extra play at top of pedal, which you adjust out. Then later it works its way loose, and now you have too much preload, and have to adjust that out.

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I did the clutch myself. In addition, I had it out again about a month ago to install a lighter flywheel, and I double checked and re-lubed everything, it looks good. The disk wear was in spec. I also at this time replaced the release fork with a new one. Interesting idea though, I'll keep that in mind if it happens again.
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Old May 17, 2016 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sylvan
Originally Posted by shind3
How many threads do you have visible on the clutch switch? We can compare.
Approximately 3 threads are exposed towards the pedal. The height of the pedal at rest is about 1/4" higher than the brake pedal.
Same.
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