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jdnissanz 07-07-2006 06:47 AM

Thanks a lot, always contributing to the s2ki community...Seriously this was a quesiton I wanted to ask and searched, but couldn't find results like this...THANKS AGAIN...

Nugget 07-07-2006 07:02 AM

So, a quick question,

My 04 when it is cold in the morning will stutter really bad when it starts, I give it a little gas and it goes away and is never an issue until the next morning when it is cold.

Do your solutions pertain to this issue as well, so should I just let it stutter and let the computer "learn".

Thank you for putting this together. I have gathered so much useful information from this site and appreciate the time you and others put into it.

Take care

floridawriter 07-07-2006 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by icemans2k02,Jul 7 2006, 06:40 AM
no when you reset the ECU disconnect the negative on battery, reconnect after 15 min or so then just turn the car on, and let the fan cycle three times.. some people like to drive it immediately after to begin the learning process but you dont have to

I knew I read it somewhere. It's called the Idle Learn Procedure, from page 11-100 of the S2000 00-03 Honda Service Manual (sorry for the cut and paste from the PDF)

The idle learn procedure must be done so that the ECM
can learn the engine idle characteristics.
Do the idle learn procedure whenever you do any of
these actions:
. Disconnectth e batterY.
. Replaceth e ECMo r disconnecti ts connector'
. Reset the ECM.
NOTE. Eras\ng DTCS N\th Honda PGM Testei does
requiret he idle learnp roceduret o be done again.
. Removeth e No.6 ECU( ECM)( 15A)fusefr omt he
under-dashfu se/relayb ox.
. Removet he No. 41 BATTERY(1 00A)f usef rom the
under-hoodf use/relayb ox.
. Remove the PGM-FI main relay.
. Removet he batteryw ire from the under-hoodf use/
relay box.
. Disconnecat ny of the connectorsf rom the underhood
fuse/relay box.
. Disconnectth e connector( C404)b etweent he
dashboard wire harness A and dashboard wire
harness B,
. Disconnectth e Gl terminal.
. Adjust the idle speed.
To complete the idle learn procedure do this:
1. Makes ure all electricali tems (A/C,a udio,r ear
window defogger,l ights,e tc.)a ret urned off
2. Startthe engine. Hold the engine speed at 3,000
rpmw ith no load( inP arko r neutralu) ntilthe
radiator fan comes on, or the engine coolant
temperaturere aches1 76'F( 80") 212"F{ 100").
3. Let the engine idle for about 5 minutes with the
throftief ully closeda nd with all electricailt ems off.
NOTE: lf the radiator fan comes on during this step, the
time when it is operating must not be included in the 5
minutes.

icemans2k02 07-07-2006 07:25 AM

haha ... you can have fun with that one

Wisconsin S2k 07-07-2006 07:27 AM

the learn procedure is not necessary, but there is also nothing wrong with doing it either.

icemans2k02 07-07-2006 07:34 AM

nad just so you see how its done on here i thought i would should you the DIY link that xviper posted up

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...ic=183490&st=0

Nugget 07-07-2006 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Jul 7 2006, 09:27 AM
the learn procedure is not necessary, but there is also nothing wrong with doing it either.

What would be the best way to cure it?

Thanks,

icemans2k02 07-07-2006 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Nugget,Jul 7 2006, 11:34 AM
What would be the best way to cure it?

Thanks,

are you wanting to cure the engine idle, or the learning prcoess... either way its cured by just driving it.

Nugget 07-07-2006 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by icemans2k02,Jul 7 2006, 10:58 AM
are you wanting to cure the engine idle, or the learning prcoess... either way its cured by just driving it.

It is only on start up that I have the problem and on very cold mornings. I live in Colorado so it is dry as hell as well, so humidity isn't an issue.
I have never had a problem with idling while driving, only on the start up.

Thoughts?

madcowdk 07-07-2006 12:37 PM

Maybe this is a dumb question but would it help/hurt to spray some contact cleaner before connecting the plug back together?


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