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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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I just turned over 160,000 on my '01. The water pump's making funny noises and it's burning a quart of oil roughly every 1,500 miles.

I figure a rebuild's in my future. Soon.

However, one of the service advisors at the local Honda dealer said that I might be able to get an engine from Japan and have it installed for less than the cost of a rebuild.

Does anyone here have experience in this? Would you suggest the rebuild or the replacement? Why?

Thanks!
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by magician' date='Jan 10 2009, 11:56 PM
I just turned over 160,000 on my '01. The water pump's making funny noises and it's burning a quart of oil roughly every 1,500 miles.

I figure a rebuild's in my future. Soon.

However, one of the service advisors at the local Honda dealer said that I might be able to get an engine from Japan and have it installed for less than the cost of a rebuild.

Does anyone here have experience in this? Would you suggest the rebuild or the replacement? Why?

Thanks!
have you checked compression and leak down numbers?
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Soul Coughing' date='Jan 10 2009, 09:21 PM
have you checked compression and leak down numbers?
Nope.

I'm just reconnoitering.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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a new AP1 engine or AP2 please tell me an AP1 lol personally if the prices are close i would go with a new one and just part out or sell the old one im sure you could get a pretty penny for your old engine
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:08 AM
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Pricing for a new engine on Mejestic honda is $4500. Just a reference number. Of course I am sure there are also shipping charges. And if you don't plan on doing the install yourself that will be another charge.

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:16 AM
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I'd buy an new OEM long block and have the valves and seats reground and stem seals replaced in you existing cylinder head.

Very few machine shops and no mechanic with a hone can hold the same tolerances that Honda does when they assemble the bottom end.

Last time I checked new OEM shortblocks could be had for under 2K
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Slows2k' date='Jan 11 2009, 10:16 AM
I'd buy an new OEM long block and have the valves and seats reground and stem seals replaced in you existing cylinder head.

Very few machine shops and no mechanic with a hone can hold the same tolerances that Honda does when they assemble the bottom end.

Last time I checked new OEM shortblocks could be had for under 2K
That sounds kinda crazy... 2k for a short block. I think id much rather have the block sleeved, it would probably be a lot cheaper than 2k also. I do agree about the head, definitely have all the valves/seats reground and replace any if needed.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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I've messed around with plenty of machine shops that can't do the same quality of work that Honda can. If you are keeping the stock FRM bores that further complicates it because they have different tolerances than a cast iron sleeve.

Add up sleeving,new pistons, rings, bearings, fitting the pistons, filing the rings, rebalancing and you'll be surprised how much it's going to cost.

For a street car engine that he wants another 160k+ from, I can almost guarantee it won't be fitted as precisely as the OEM shortblock.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Slows2k' date='Jan 11 2009, 07:07 PM
Add up sleeving,new pistons, rings, bearings, fitting the pistons, filing the rings, rebalancing and you'll be surprised how much it's going to cost.
You gotta pay to play...
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Get a leak down test, test your PCV better yet replace if its original, get an oil analysis done.

From there you should get a better idea of what the condition of the motor is.

Then if its good, replace the water pump, the noise is most likely the bearings going out.
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