Originally Posted by Rambizzle,Dec 12 2006, 02:33 AM

Arite, now that we got the gearing out of the way, along with the obvious fuel consumption, what are we looking at as far as performance? Some dude said he pulled a 13.8 with his 4.77 set, and i could've sworn ones have claimed mid to low 13's with a 4.57 set. If the 4.77 gives you that kind of increase -which i think it does not considering a set of decent tires and perfect launch/shifting stock should get you that time- then the 4.44's are the most pointless things created since tiptronic. I need to know how much go i'm gonna get!

Originally Posted by deathsled,Dec 12 2006, 05:44 PM

its not so much the loss of top speed that bothers me, its just the effect on cruising RPMs

This weekend I ran up to Greensboro to meet up with some local S2k folk, and I spent the majority of my time between 80-90mph, which puts me somewhere between 4000-5000rpm. I tried dropping down into 5th to see what it would be like and it was completely unacceptable.

I know people like to argue the whole "well it will keep you from getting speeding tickets because you'll be driving slower because you don't want to rev the fudge out of your engine", but I think losing the ability to comfortably cruise between 80 and 90 isn't worth it, even tho the acceleration gains are very noticable with gears.

I think the better mod would be something to extend the rev limit like in my car, which allows 2nd gear in an AP2 to hit 60mph and gives you the ability to cross the traps in the 1/4 mile without shifting to 5th (given you are are NA still)

Originally Posted by Ustemuf,Dec 11 2006, 07:24 PM

I would go with 4.57's or even 4.77's even if you have AP2. 4.77's will be really short and if you plan on FI or you commute with your car a lot i wouldnt do it... if i had AP2 i would still go 4.77's, after all.. you want the best bang for your buck dont ya?

4.44 is a 8.2% increase, 4.57 is a 11.4%, and 4.77's 16.3%. Fuel efficiency wont go down unless you use the gas a lot more, otherwise it should stay the same.

This is your AP2 on 4.10's (245/40/17 tire):

Maximum speed in first gear: 36.9 mph
Maximum speed in second gear: 56.5 mph
Maximum speed in third gear: 78 mph
Maximum speed in fourth gear: 99.5 mph
Maximum speed in fifth gear: 122.5 mph
Maximum speed in sixth gear: 151 mph

This is your AP2 on 4.57's (245/40/17 tire):

Maximum speed in first gear: 33.1 mph
Maximum speed in second gear: 50.7 mph
Maximum speed in third gear: 70 mph
Maximum speed in fourth gear: 89.2 mph
Maximum speed in fifth gear: 109.9 mph
Maximum speed in sixth gear: 135.4 mph

This is your AP2 on 4.77's (245/40/17 tire):

Maximum speed in first gear: 31.7 mph
Maximum speed in second gear: 48.5 mph
Maximum speed in third gear: 67 mph
Maximum speed in fourth gear: 85.5 mph
Maximum speed in fifth gear: 105.3 mph
Maximum speed in sixth gear: 129.8 mph


http://www.turnzero.com/technical_resource...gear_calculator

You can plug in your numbers there and see the charts. The dropdown menu has the transmission ratios for AP1 & AP2.

Originally Posted by Rambizzle,Dec 12 2006, 10:23 PM

This is wrong. I know my car well, and these are the top speeds....


1st: 39 (40 if i'm burning out)
2nd: 55
3rd: 80
4th: 105
5th: 125
6th: i dont know, but i've hit 150



I don't care if Mr. Honda tells me otherwise, these are the top speeds. I'll record a video for you nonbelievers. And because all the the figures i was shown just now are false, you've lost credibility on the other figures.

Originally Posted by Rambizzle

I don't care if Mr. Honda tells me otherwise, these are the top speeds. I'll record a video for you nonbelievers. And because all the the figures i was shown just now are false, you've lost credibility on the other figures.

Originally Posted by Rambizzle,Dec 12 2006, 07:23 PM

This is wrong. I know my car well, and these are the top speeds....


1st: 39 (40 if i'm burning out)