I was curious to see if anyone would be willing to produce an s2000 specific grounding kit, and sell it in a GB.

 

T1R makes a ground kit for our cars, but you will find many skeptics on this board.

I was one too, until I saw the gains on a dyno with my own eyes. It didn't make sense to me, but it was very consistant and perfectly repeatable.

The gains may not be much, but it is there, and everything adds up. Besides, for less than a hundred bucks, you get 2whp throughout the rev range.

 

I see absolutely no point in using them, but if you guys want to do a group buy, I won't turn down the money Let me know how many you want, and I'll put together a setup for the S.

 

jl9000, was this gain on a s2k?

 

Yes, please give some details on the gains that you observed. I have never seen nor heard about a valid comparison that showed performance improvement on a relatively new car. If the car is old and the electrical connections are oxidized, a grounding kit may help, but so would a little elbow grease to clean the connections with the possible need of a few dollars worth of wire.

 

Even if I got it free I would not use it, as it is snake oil incarnate, and to me identifies the victory of marketing over science, ignorance over thought.

I see the same nonsense in high-end audio (specialty power cables) and have the same comments for them.

I agree with CoralDoc and have posted the same line of thought - Maxwell's principles of electromagnetism have withstood more and one and a half centuries of empirical eveidence - Maxwell would have laughed his tail off about grounding kits and "miracle" power cables. 1000 miles of transmission lines, and the last 3 feet make a difference in a high end audio amplifier? Puh-leez. As Doc says, if there is a benefit, it is not because of the grounding kit - it is far more likely a mechanical defect (bad contact, corroded internal wiring, loose connector), resulting in either a high impedance ground, or acting as a rectifier and introducing some anomalous "hash" into the power supply loop, causing an upstream gliutch the ECU may correct by altering a setting).

Looked as a lump sum circuit (which a power supply arguably is), unless there is a defect or the wire in the circuit is undersized for the purpose, a grounding kit cannot and will not have any meaasurable electrical effect - any dyno effect is based on something else meant to fool the client.

Reminds me of the carny hawking tickets to see the "Elephant Girl" at the old State Fairs in farm country when i was a boy. Or spacecraft from outer space. Or Bigfoot.

Short analysis: If the OEM ground cables are original, correctly sized for the current involved, make a solid contact, there will be electrical continuity. Continuity is all this circuit needs. Period.

Look for power adds in the real world.

 

Just FYI I do not expect to see any power what so ever. I run a very, very high end audio system, that I have spend atleast 2 grand on, and to not spend another 100 on something that might help just doesnt make much sense.

MacGyver, are you going to make this kit yourself? If so, let me know what kind of materials you will put into it, and some more details, along with a price, and I will let you know.

 

Hey, guys, shut up! You're ruining my business

I'll put whatever materials you want into it. I'll use Monster cable if that makes people happy (and allows for some cool colors, too). Gold-plated connectors, thick-ass wire, etc. Price will depend on the materials used, etc. I'll say 15-50% less in price than comparable kits, is that enough incentive?

 

Oh no, I fear that MacGyver has been lost to ... THE DARK SIDE .

 

Im not sure "thick ass" wire is really necessary. A kit that my friend just recieved utilized wire that was about 1/6 of an inch thick. I would also want the wires to be black. The T1R kit is 100 bucks, so give us a rough estimate on your kit.

Also, if someone has instructions from a T1R kit, please post them so that we will know what to ground.