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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by Johnny--2K
that hose that comes off the valve cover (at the front) is supposed to go to the intake right? Where do you have it routing, and where did you get all the hsose and fittings from? It looks very clean!
You are correct its suppose to goto the OEM intake. Instead I routed it to the catch can. You can pick up the exact hoses from Home Depot. Its like $6.95 for like 10 feet. Something like that. The blue fittings are Earls fittings. They come in red or blue and you can pick them up at any local airshop. They range from $5 to $30 a piece.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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Ok, that hose is what? an oil bypass? If so, is it ok to route it to a catch can, and did you just cap the intake tube where it used to be? Im kinda confused by looking at that picture...where is the other line from the catch tank going?
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Johnny--2K
Ok, that hose is what? an oil bypass? If so, is it ok to route it to a catch can, and did you just cap the intake tube where it used to be? Im kinda confused by looking at that picture...where is the other line from the catch tank going?
Sorry the two pictures were taken the same day but before I connected both tubes. Heres the best explanation on the catch can. Legal Bill put it best:

"Just so you know, there is some controversy about which breather (or both) needs a catch can. Remember, there are two hoses coming from the valve cover area. One is a breather, the other a PCV valve. They both deliver "vapor" to the intake for combustion. There is some dispute as to which, or perhaps even both, occasionally deliver oil during hard turns.

To stop vapor, you will need some kind of filtering material in the can.

Its not just race cars or turbos that benefit this. If you don't believe me, just remove the throttle body and look at all the "soot" in your intake. It is not very good for your air flow through the intake and head ports. A well designed and installed catch can should eliminate a good percentage of this."

Just remember that the one tube closest to the front of the valve cover can be attached to the catch can (very easy). Make sure you plug the hole in your OEM intake. Second when you connect the second tube to the catch can make sure you plug the intake manifold port because if you don't, when you start your car you will get a increase in RPMs and decrease. You will be like what the heck is wrong with my car. That's because you have the intake manifold port open. It needs to be plugged. Then run the tube to the catch can. If you have ever seen the Spoon Sports S2000 Race Car it has it plugged and both tubes going to their catch can. Same thing with the J's Racing S2000 and catch can. You can tell very easily the can is working because your white tubes will turn oil color over time.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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ahh...i see! Very good write up!
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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Looks very nice. I like the idea of the ground kit except that I would never spend more than $100 on one unless I was competing in a car show.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 02:48 AM
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If anyone is considering this "upgrade", please read MacGyver's comments before spending any money on grounding kits ... unless you don't want to be discouraged by reality .
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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In my case I bought it because a friend was making them and he sale it very cheap. Anyways, thanks everybody for their answers and thanks JDMs2000 for the pics. :-)
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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I have the AP1 Spoon Ground Wire installed. I did notice a throttle response but maybe it's in my head. It looks nice I'll post pictures up sometime.
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 05:47 AM
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This is baloney, unless the standard grounds are so corroded and resistive as to cause demonstable peformance anomalies. As an EE, I can say that Honda uses excellent grounds, and unless the car has been flooded in salt water, there will be electrical continuity and no gains will be found using these hypergrounds.

Skin-effect is misunderstood, and as others have posted, is an RF (radio freq) issue, completely irrelevant in a DC system.

I also write for high end audio publications (The Audio Critic and The Sensible Sound) and have seen the same sort of nonsense promulgated by snake-oil speaker cable merchants - would you believe that there are $15,000 speaker cables?

Some purport to "time-align" the high and low frequencies, but they play on buyer ignorance. yes, there is a delay of the transit of low freq and hi freq waveforms through a length of cable, but it is measured in microseconds, and manifests itself only in the time domain, not the freq domain. So that translates into a phse error, of perhaps a fraction fo adegree at 20 kHz. Our hearing apparatus takes several thousand times more phase error at those frequencies to be detectable. So the snake oil guys are providing a "solution" to a "problem" no one has.
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 07:09 AM
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I just wish I would of thought of "grounding kits" and taken it to market first. If your car runs, the stereo plays and the windshield wiper motor works, your car is grounded just fine.
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