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Old May 17, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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I just changed my rotors and painted my calipers, while I had them disconnected the left front drained and the master cylinder emptied. So I put everything back together and proceeded to bleed the system with the old pump the pedal and bleed technique. Starting with the left front, then right front, right rear, then left rear. Got it out to test and I have to pump my pedal to get a good pedal. So I bleed it again. Same thing only slightly better. First time I prss on pedal it goes to the floor ut I can pump it up to stop the car. Am I missing something, I have put two 12oz bottles of fluid through it and the line coems out clear with no bubbles whatsoever. Please help. Car only has 10,000 miles on it and it is an '02.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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It's best to do this with two people unless you have one of those pressure/vacuum bleeder systems.

With one person in the car and the other doing the bleeding:
1. Open the bleed bolt
2. Push the brake pedal to the floor and hold it there
3. Close the bleed bolt
4. Release the brake pedal and start over at 1.

The sequence you followed is correct (for LHD cars): Left Front - Right Front - Right Rear - Left Rear

I don't know what else it could be besides having a bad bleed. The symptom you describe is consistent with air in the hydraulic system. It usually takes me about 300-500ml to get a complete bleed once the system is opened up.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CoralDoc,May 17 2008, 04:47 PM
It's best to do this with two people unless you have one of those pressure/vacuum bleeder systems.

With one person in the car and the other doing the bleeding:
1. Open the bleed bolt
2. Push the brake pedal to the floor and HOLD IT THERE
3. Close the bleed bolt
4. Release the brake pedal and start over at 1.

The sequence you followed is correct (for LHD cars): Left Front - Right Front - Right Rear - Left Rear

I don't know what else it could be besides having a bad bleed. The symptom you describe is consistent with air in the hydraulic system. It usually takes me about 300-500ml to get a complete bleed once the system is opened up.
i have revised step 2. if the person working the pedal lets off the pedal at all you will pull air into your hydraulic system.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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it may take a couple of times coz when my gf helped me do this it took us like 3 tries
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Old May 19, 2008 | 05:28 AM
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Old May 19, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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we have seen where the ABS accumulator gets emptied thus requiring reverse flushing in connection with ABS cycling or using a pro bleeder to cycle the total system. as it seems s2000 are different than every other sports autos in the world, awaiting flaming on this too.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Ive been told never to let the master cylinder empty, keep pouring in new fluid as it gets low and to ALWAYS start with the brake furthest from the master cylinder...rear passenger-rear driver-front passenger-front driver.

Done this for years and usually first time gets it done right, once in a while Ill have to bleed them twice, and my gf helps me too
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Old May 19, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pemex70,May 19 2008, 12:49 PM
Ive been told never to let the master cylinder empty, keep pouring in new fluid as it gets low and to ALWAYS start with the brake furthest from the master cylinder...rear passenger-rear driver-front passenger-front driver.

Done this for years and usually first time gets it done right, once in a while Ill have to bleed them twice, and my gf helps me too
I was just getting ready to ask where everyone else got their bleeding sequence from.....and since the master has gone dry and you have no form of powered bleeder it may require time and a lot of patience.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Yeah you are supposed to start farthest from the master cylinder so it would be right rear first the left rear, right front and left front in that order! I would fill up ur resevior and keep pumping until the fluid stops going down. Then keep pumping till you get a little pedal and get whoever is helpin you to pop open the bleeder. I would do it 3 or 4 times on each caliper until you get a steady stream to flow out when you pop the bleeder valve
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Old May 20, 2008 | 03:32 AM
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The fluid does not go down anymore. And the pedal is good after the second application. And the sequence I got from a few other posts on this board.
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