how to wire groundkit?
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Originally Posted by iam7head,Dec 4 2006, 12:33 AM
maybe on a 1950's english roadster you may see improvement, maybe
No they won't give you extra hp, but they will keep you from losing HP or having funny idles or other intermittant issues from a corroded factory ground.
ANY HP you gain from the install is just getting back HP you lost due to probs due to an already existing corroded factory ground point. A corroded ground = bad or weak elec connection which can cause any number of wonky ecu or elect probs depending upon which ground point is weak.
Some cars have a history of wonky ground and probs (like VWs), fortunately the S isn't one of the cars. But that doesn't mean it is immune to the issues ESPECIALLY as it ages.
Your install now might stop you from getting the probs later.
I made a few hp on my '91 subaru because I KNEW it had shitty grounds. On the S there is no reason to install other than looks. Poke around the engine bay if you don't believe me, everything is well grounded.
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Originally Posted by Wildncrazy,Dec 4 2006, 06:36 AM
NO, that's exactly where you would get no effect. The premise, and it is a sound one, is only applicable to modern day electronically controlled cars. On todays EFI cars the kit isn't bad insurance.
No they won't give you extra hp, but they will keep you from losing HP or having funny idles or other intermittant issues from a corroded factory ground.
ANY HP you gain from the install is just getting back HP you lost due to probs due to an already existing corroded factory ground point. A corroded ground = bad or weak elec connection which can cause any number of wonky ecu or elect probs depending upon which ground point is weak.
Some cars have a history of wonky ground and probs (like VWs), fortunately the S isn't one of the cars. But that doesn't mean it is immune to the issues ESPECIALLY as it ages.
Your install now might stop you from getting the probs later.
No they won't give you extra hp, but they will keep you from losing HP or having funny idles or other intermittant issues from a corroded factory ground.
ANY HP you gain from the install is just getting back HP you lost due to probs due to an already existing corroded factory ground point. A corroded ground = bad or weak elec connection which can cause any number of wonky ecu or elect probs depending upon which ground point is weak.
Some cars have a history of wonky ground and probs (like VWs), fortunately the S isn't one of the cars. But that doesn't mean it is immune to the issues ESPECIALLY as it ages.
Your install now might stop you from getting the probs later.
if honda can't figure out what size of wires they should use on simple ground, i don't know why we all buying their product.
not to argue with you but there's no way to tell and my personal experience with ground wires been nothing but crappy hype and ricer bling
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He won't be dicking with the existing ground wires, he will be adding more.
And as far as Honda not knowing the proper size of ground wires, that has nothing to do with adding others. Usually it isn't added resistance to the wire that causes the trouble, but the connection.
By adding more connection points he is ensuring a good connection for a long time to come.
Most of you must not get out much, on many other car lists this is a cure for lots of weird gremlins. Although it might get you back some of the HP lost due to wonky connections, mostly it is to solve intermitant issues. Go over to the Civic boards just to name one.
We are lucky so far. But with age comes corrosion and with corrosion comes high resistance and with that comes any number of issues.
We do the Map sensor wack and there is now a modified connection fix for that. Same thing only on a grander scale.
How many electrical probs around the house do you solve by disconnecting and reconnecting a connection?
Shot, the "chip drop" is the first thing a tech will tell you to do when your computer is acting up. (The chip drop is to raise the front of your computer- when it's off of course- 2" or more and then let it drop. This reseats some connections or cuts thru corrosion)
And as far as Honda not knowing the proper size of ground wires, that has nothing to do with adding others. Usually it isn't added resistance to the wire that causes the trouble, but the connection.
By adding more connection points he is ensuring a good connection for a long time to come.
Most of you must not get out much, on many other car lists this is a cure for lots of weird gremlins. Although it might get you back some of the HP lost due to wonky connections, mostly it is to solve intermitant issues. Go over to the Civic boards just to name one.
We are lucky so far. But with age comes corrosion and with corrosion comes high resistance and with that comes any number of issues.
We do the Map sensor wack and there is now a modified connection fix for that. Same thing only on a grander scale.
How many electrical probs around the house do you solve by disconnecting and reconnecting a connection?
Shot, the "chip drop" is the first thing a tech will tell you to do when your computer is acting up. (The chip drop is to raise the front of your computer- when it's off of course- 2" or more and then let it drop. This reseats some connections or cuts thru corrosion)
