S2000 Under The Hood S2000 Technical and Mechanical discussions.

Kpro

Thread Tools
 
Old Jul 1, 2020 | 10:26 AM
  #1  
kjonesy203's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 93
Likes: 1
Default Kpro

Im switching From AEM to KPRO. On the list of parts needed to make kpro work is the 06-09 valve cover. Whats the reason for that? Different sensor connections or something? Im assuming this will fit on the f20 as well. May be a dumb question idk
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2020 | 11:42 AM
  #2  
Deckoz's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 714
Likes: 158
Default

Originally Posted by kjonesy203
Im switching From AEM to KPRO. On the list of parts needed to make kpro work is the 06-09 valve cover. Whats the reason for that? Different sensor connections or something? Im assuming this will fit on the f20 as well. May be a dumb question idk

The reason is the later models are hall sensors, and older models are magnetic. (Cam and crank POS sensors)

You can avoid the swap of sensors running a doctronics or ballade plug and play. But all they are using is a 5v mag to hall sensor converter in the plug and play harness.

https://sirhclabs.com/product/vr-to-...sor-converter/

As well as a modifry ECT.

https://modifry.com/index.php?route=...ory&path=18_59
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2020 | 01:14 PM
  #3  
kjonesy203's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 93
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by Deckoz
The reason is the later models are hall sensors, and older models are magnetic. (Cam and crank POS sensors)

You can avoid the swap of sensors running a doctronics or ballade plug and play. But all they are using is a 5v mag to hall sensor converter in the plug and play harness.

https://sirhclabs.com/product/vr-to-...sor-converter/

As well as a modifry ECT.

https://modifry.com/index.php?route=...ory&path=18_59
ahh okay. Thanks!
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2020 | 01:57 PM
  #4  
zze86's Avatar
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 847
Likes: 140
Default

Why the switch? The AEM is more powerful. Emissions?
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2020 | 02:17 PM
  #5  
kjonesy203's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 93
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by zze86
Why the switch? The AEM is more powerful. Emissions?
yup emissions
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2020 | 04:19 PM
  #6  
Deckoz's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 714
Likes: 158
Default

Originally Posted by kjonesy203
yup emissions
I failed in NC with kpro. It's missing two systems(evap and air injection). Some states are comparing model year data and flagging cars missing systems. So just be aware kpro isn't as failsafe for passing as it used to be in states that have started comparing model year data
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2020 | 08:00 PM
  #7  
kjonesy203's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 93
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by Deckoz
I failed in NC with kpro. It's missing two systems(evap and air injection). Some states are comparing model year data and flagging cars missing systems. So just be aware kpro isn't as failsafe for passing as it used to be in states that have started comparing model year data
all i need is obd2 reading. Place in ct i go to puts anything through really lol
Reply

Trending Topics

Old Jul 1, 2020 | 09:02 PM
  #8  
afzan's Avatar
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,601
Likes: 103
From: Toronto
Default

Originally Posted by Deckoz
I failed in NC with kpro. It's missing two systems(evap and air injection). Some states are comparing model year data and flagging cars missing systems. So just be aware kpro isn't as failsafe for passing as it used to be in states that have started comparing model year data
yup, this is my experience up north also -- failed with kpro because secondary o2/air pump were missing from the the rsx ecu

(then of course they got rid of the emissions testing up here a couple of years later ugh)
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2020 | 06:19 AM
  #9  
Deckoz's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 714
Likes: 158
Default

Originally Posted by afzan
yup, this is my experience up north also -- failed with kpro because secondary o2/air pump were missing from the the rsx ecu

(then of course they got rid of the emissions testing up here a couple of years later ugh)

​​​​​​For me.. I literally swapped back, passed, then the inspection station said, it's your last year of emissions! State just changed from 25 years to 20. Lol so yea no more emissions here either.

Originally Posted by kjonesy203
all i need is obd2 reading. Place in ct i go to puts anything through really lol
That's exactly what I am saying. Is while kpro supports OBDII
​​​​​​​The krpro shows "Not Supported" for Secondary Air Injection, and Evaporative System. It's not a visual inspection thing, all that is on the car. It's a they hook upto a computer and the computer flaggs you thing.

Last edited by Deckoz; Jul 2, 2020 at 06:25 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2020 | 08:27 AM
  #10  
afzan's Avatar
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,601
Likes: 103
From: Toronto
Default

There's 3 main status' for an OBD2 readiness monitor (for example the secondary air injection monitor) -- Passed, Failed and Not Supported

Up here, in the early days of OBD2 emissions testing they just looked to make sure there were no "Failed" status monitors. No problem for KPRO to pass this type of test

Then over time they realized that a lot of flashable ECUs you had the ability to turn off OBD2 monitors by changing them to the "Not Supported" status.

So they revised the emissions testing by referencing a) the list of monitors your exact car should support from the factory and b) making sure they were all in "Passed" status. This is the type of test that KPro will fail because shows a couple of OBD2 monitors in "Not Supported" status that the OEM ECU supports
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tpolonyi
Wheels and Tires
7
Jun 4, 2019 07:27 PM
windhund116
S2000 Vintage Owners
6
Nov 18, 2018 01:19 PM
dlq04
S2000 Vintage Owners
15
Mar 19, 2018 03:12 PM
switchblaydes
Want to Buy
1
Apr 20, 2016 11:13 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:35 AM.