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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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My S needs some service, missing badly, just wondered what to expect. I would guess it needs plugs, but on another fuel injected car I had, when it acted the same the injectors needed to be cleaned or replaced. Is that a common problem with the S? (any FI auto)
BTW I have about 45K miles. Other thoughts? Thanks.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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Are you stock?

MAP whack?
Fuel injector cleaning helped me.
Changing plugs is super easy, only takes 15 minutes. Some of us FI guys change them every 3-5k miles for fun.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Yes bone stock.
What is MAP whack?
Did you clean the injectors yourself, or have it done? Any special tools needed? How long did it take?
Thanks.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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does it miss only above 6k rpm? if it does, then u need to do the MAP whack. you'll see the map sensor right there by the throttle body. Use the back of a screw driver and gentle "whack" it. It should fix the problem. If it does in fact fix the problem, put a zip tie around it. There is a TSB for that particular problem. I had the same problem before, only above 6k rpm, did the map whack and fixed it. You should do a search on s2ki.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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check your oil. ap1's are known to burn a lot of oil, 1 quart/1,000miles in some cases. my vtec was breaking up in high rpm because i was low on oil. if thats the case consider buying "krank vents" to correct the oil burning.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by thecbrman,May 20 2007, 05:10 PM
does it miss only above 6k rpm? if it does, then u need to do the MAP whack. you'll see the map sensor right there by the throttle body. Use the back of a screw driver and gentle "whack" it.
, but re-seat the connector as well. In my experience that was more effective than tapping on the sensor.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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^ Yep. The problem is with the connectors, not some internal sensor problem, so I think the best solution is to simply unplug the sensor and plug it back in securely.

To the OP, I think there's some info in the UTH FAQ about this, as well as info on a TSB. If you have a good relationship with your local service advisor, you might be able to get them to replace the MAP sensor with the upgraded part. Or you could 'rig' the device with a zip-tie (which is effectively all the new part is). I think that's documented in the FAQ thread, too.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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If it's missing badly, it should throw a CEL. What's the code(s)?
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Old May 21, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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No CEL has lit. Don't know where to look for codes, but would there be codes if the CEL never lit?
Thanks for your ideas. I will try the connections today, and if I have to take it in, at least I have a bit of knowledge, rather than total ignorance.
(Also oil is not the problem, Chris2k03. I have had this S since the first weekend they were introduced in the US, so I am aware of oil consumption and VTEC/oil relationship. Thanks)
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Old May 21, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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When you say missing, Is it going pop pop pop really fast, like it is not getting spark or fuel?
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