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Old 10-14-2012, 05:08 AM
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I can sense the next question brewing.....

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Thanks for the list INDYMAC
Funny how Honda recommends MTF while this is thinner than a .. okay temporarily allowed... 30 weight.
(No VOA of MTF-III?)
It must be the additives then...?
Nice to see Amsoil being close to a true 30 weight, WITH the additives.
No surprice it works well.

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For the most part, the chemistry is very different for these fluids when you compare VOA's. But they all seem to get to the same end. I believe Honda MTF was probably close to a 30wt. The Honda MTFII was probably a response to all the notchy/grinding complaints when the original MTF was cold, and another "one size fits all" attempt by Honda.
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Adding a thicker oil to a transmission will give hydraulic "support" to the synchros, hampering them from doing their job.

Synchros have razor sharp brass teeth, in a stack, that cut through the thinner oil to grab and stop (synchronize) the next gear. Adding a motor oil will protect your gears for a short drive, but if left in your will surely damage the transmission.

Bottom line, only use a motor oil if you drained your MTF out, disposed of it, now a family member needs to go to the hospital and you need your s2k to transport them but have no MTF.

ALWAYS use a high quality MTF designed for synchronized transmission use.

Personally, I have had fantastic results with Honda MTF, in my car and hundreds of others.

NOTCHY shifting is 95% clutch, disengagement, and driver habit related. Not internal transmission or fluid type.
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