Oil and filter recommendation
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Yep. the "extra" washer is indeed the crush washer for the oil sump drain. Honda dealer may do this as I had one run out to the parking lot with one as I was leaving and he'd forgotten to attach it. Like everything else this drain plug has a torque spec as well. Good to repeat the advice to make sure the old oil filter rubber washer comes off with the filter.
-- Chuck
-- Chuck
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Agreed, though on normal summer days, i will let it idle for 30 secs to ensure oil is well circulated before starting to drive. On cold winter mornings, i might give it a min since the oil will be thicker. And before the oil temps get to normal operating temp, i always drive like a granny.
Most wear occurs on cold engine. Even 0W oils are thicker than ideal when cold. Cold being lower than operating temp, not freezing temps (though freezing temps are even worse). So the lower the first number the better, pretty much universally.
Its not always easy to get that first number low, especially with higher grade oils (-50 weight, etc). But first number lower is better.
Cold wear is also why its stupid to idle to warm an engine, as it takes so much longer to reach operating temp at idle, so more wear if you idle to warm vs drive gently to warm.
Its not always easy to get that first number low, especially with higher grade oils (-50 weight, etc). But first number lower is better.
Cold wear is also why its stupid to idle to warm an engine, as it takes so much longer to reach operating temp at idle, so more wear if you idle to warm vs drive gently to warm.
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Every bolt on this car has a recommended torque value, some are more important than other and the drain plug is probably one of them.
Don't want to strip it and you also don't want it to get loose
You can download the service manual from here and for detailed specs on everything S2000.club [Anything and Everything Honda S2000]
Think the specified torque for the drain plug is 29 lb-ft.
Don't want to strip it and you also don't want it to get loose
You can download the service manual from here and for detailed specs on everything S2000.club [Anything and Everything Honda S2000]
Think the specified torque for the drain plug is 29 lb-ft.
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Dueling specs: Engine oil drain bolt torque in the 2006 Owners Manual is 33 lbf·ft but 29 lbf·ft in the Service Manual. New washer is specified in both and probably necessary to get the right torque since I think it's a crush washer.
-- Chuck
New washer is specified in both and probably necessary to get the right torque since I think it's a crush washer.-- Chuck
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Since it was mentioned early in this thread and you’re a new owner, (Congrats), I’ll add this here for you: When you change your anti-freeze, be sure to use Honda brand and replace it in synch with the Billman250 coolant bleed procedure in s2ki.com. It will save you wasting expensive coolant and it’s fast and easy.
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Oil and filter
Hi, I am going to give my AP2 it's first oil change in my ownership. The car has 62k miles and no issues. Looking for recommendations for the proper oil and filter. I don't have the owner's manual and don't want to rely on a Google search - would like to hear from members about their experiences and recommendations. Thanks in advance! Peter
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No special care needed but ya gotta follow the specifications which are different in many cases from the typical front-wheel drive Civic. You should have downloaded the owner's manual by now from the link furnished previously. Radical as it may seem: follow it.
The Service Manual should have the required maintenance for 60,000 miles. Things like coolant and hydraulic oil are changed on a time basis regardless of mileage both of which should have been done years ago. 2006 and later cars must have their valve clearance set properly as they're known to be tight -- often very tight -- after this amount of miles. Important but now quite as critical with earlier cars.
All scheduled maintenance is easy DIY. And surprisingly satisfying albeit a bit messy. Photo essays abound in the library.
-- Chuck
The Service Manual should have the required maintenance for 60,000 miles. Things like coolant and hydraulic oil are changed on a time basis regardless of mileage both of which should have been done years ago. 2006 and later cars must have their valve clearance set properly as they're known to be tight -- often very tight -- after this amount of miles. Important but now quite as critical with earlier cars.
All scheduled maintenance is easy DIY. And surprisingly satisfying albeit a bit messy. Photo essays abound in the library.
-- Chuck