OIL question
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OIL question
UPDATE!!! A FEW POSTS DOWN.
If I were to drive for about 1 month with out an oil cap, wouldn't oil come spitting out of the opening. Would a CEL be triggered?
I just took my S2K in for its 45,000 check and they claim there was no oil cap and charged me $8.00 for a new one. Then later that day I hear and feel a vibration comming from behind the motor. I take it back, and its the oil cap, the lost one. It was wedged next to the tranny. So they charged me another $40 to remove it.
Now I had the oil changed about a month ago. Seems like I would have been able to smell oil or get a CEL if it was missing. They claim that there is some kind of baffel that would prevent the oil from flying out and they did have to wipe up oil from the top of the motor. The lost oil cap could have been knocked into a position like that from the car being up on the lift. Seems like it should have been knocked around a lot more in every day driving.
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If I were to drive for about 1 month with out an oil cap, wouldn't oil come spitting out of the opening. Would a CEL be triggered?
I just took my S2K in for its 45,000 check and they claim there was no oil cap and charged me $8.00 for a new one. Then later that day I hear and feel a vibration comming from behind the motor. I take it back, and its the oil cap, the lost one. It was wedged next to the tranny. So they charged me another $40 to remove it.
Now I had the oil changed about a month ago. Seems like I would have been able to smell oil or get a CEL if it was missing. They claim that there is some kind of baffel that would prevent the oil from flying out and they did have to wipe up oil from the top of the motor. The lost oil cap could have been knocked into a position like that from the car being up on the lift. Seems like it should have been knocked around a lot more in every day driving.
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There will be oil on the underhood insulation, and valve cover from running the engine with the cap off.
There is no "oil cap installed" check the PCM does, so no CEL if it's gone.
You should have been smelling the oil under hood, especially with fresh air selected on the climate control. If you listen carefully, you can hear the difference in engine noise with and without the oil cap.
As far as why it took a month for the oil cap to wedge itself between the trans, your guess is a good as mine....
There is no "oil cap installed" check the PCM does, so no CEL if it's gone.
You should have been smelling the oil under hood, especially with fresh air selected on the climate control. If you listen carefully, you can hear the difference in engine noise with and without the oil cap.
As far as why it took a month for the oil cap to wedge itself between the trans, your guess is a good as mine....
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They dropped the cap during the change.....period. If any of them want to discuss it here bring them on. I would ask for a refund for the cap and then post a thread so others here don't deal with a dealer who's mechincs suck! I would also ask that they cover all cost associated with the oil change and this inconvenience.
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P.S. Please feel free to PM me so I can put them in contact with the appropriate folks at Honda. In short they are full of S***!
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P.S. Please feel free to PM me so I can put them in contact with the appropriate folks at Honda. In short they are full of S***!
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Originally Posted by Slows2k,Jun 22 2005, 10:32 PM
You must have a very good crystal ball Utah.....
I agree he is a bit sure of himself, considering that screw on oil caps can loosen from a variety of causes, including mechanic (sic) inattention. But with absolutely no evidence of that, I personally would not point fingers at anyone. But, hey - my cap has never loosened - what do I know?
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Originally Posted by Utah S2K,Jun 22 2005, 11:31 PM
They dropped the cap during the change.....period.
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I drove without oil cap on for about 1.5-2 miles, the smelling of oil burning through the vent made me realize that something was wrong, I stopped the car, open the hood and saw that oil cap was on the valve cover. There was very little oil on the hood insulation pad and no visible oil on the valve cover.
If you drove your car for more than couple miles without oil cap, you must smell the oil burning. It looks like that dealer's mechanic drops your oil cap while doing oil change, then they charged you for their mistake.
If you drove your car for more than couple miles without oil cap, you must smell the oil burning. It looks like that dealer's mechanic drops your oil cap while doing oil change, then they charged you for their mistake.
They screwed you pal.
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UPDATE!!!!!
I went back to them, Lee Rollins Firestore in Miramar, CA. I talked at length with an assistant MGR and talked to him about the situation. He told me that they never lifted the hood so they could not have do this. So I pointed out that THEY were the ones that told me it was "missing" in the first place. He contradicted himself a couple times, so told me that he is just stupid, thinks, I'm stupid, or has no idea what is going on. (which is therefore stupid) Anyway I got him to refund my money that they charged to get the cap, "unstuck" from the tranny& firewall. He also told me to never come back, except to come and get my refund. ($42.00) About 1 hour later I received a call from the Manger and he reiterated some of what the Ass MGR said. He was able to refund me over then phone and send the receipt to my home. He also envited me back to do business in the future and does want my business.
Not sure I'll ever go back. The only thing that still bothered me was that I was never accusing them of doing something wrong. All my conversations with all parties envolved were extremely civil on both ends. They just never considered that they could have made a mistake. But the refund me, which is all I was going for.
I went back to them, Lee Rollins Firestore in Miramar, CA. I talked at length with an assistant MGR and talked to him about the situation. He told me that they never lifted the hood so they could not have do this. So I pointed out that THEY were the ones that told me it was "missing" in the first place. He contradicted himself a couple times, so told me that he is just stupid, thinks, I'm stupid, or has no idea what is going on. (which is therefore stupid) Anyway I got him to refund my money that they charged to get the cap, "unstuck" from the tranny& firewall. He also told me to never come back, except to come and get my refund. ($42.00) About 1 hour later I received a call from the Manger and he reiterated some of what the Ass MGR said. He was able to refund me over then phone and send the receipt to my home. He also envited me back to do business in the future and does want my business.
Not sure I'll ever go back. The only thing that still bothered me was that I was never accusing them of doing something wrong. All my conversations with all parties envolved were extremely civil on both ends. They just never considered that they could have made a mistake. But the refund me, which is all I was going for.